Chemistry + engineering Or Math + engineering

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The discussion revolves around the value of pursuing a chemistry degree versus a mathematics degree in conjunction with an engineering degree, particularly in the context of a 3+2 program with Columbia University. Participants explore the implications of each choice on academic workload and employability, focusing on fields such as chemical, biochemical, and materials science engineering.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about the workload required to obtain a BS in Chemistry alongside engineering courses, questioning if the effort is worthwhile.
  • Another participant suggests that pursuing a Chemical Engineering degree would integrate both chemistry and physics concepts, potentially addressing the original poster's interests.
  • A participant emphasizes the importance of enjoying mathematics if choosing that path, noting that advanced math courses may not be computational and could affect GPA if not enjoyed.
  • Some participants propose that obtaining a chemistry degree could enhance employability, even if the extra effort's worth is uncertain.
  • There is a suggestion that a combination of a BS in Mathematics and a Chemical Engineering degree could be an ideal solution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether a chemistry degree is worth the extra effort compared to a mathematics degree. Multiple competing views exist regarding the best academic path and its implications for future employment.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying assumptions about the nature of engineering degrees and the specific disciplines available, which may influence their arguments. The discussion reflects differing perspectives on the value of chemistry versus mathematics in relation to engineering.

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So today a friend came up to me and said getting a chemistry degree is not worth it with engineering and I would you guys here at the physics forum to show me the reality of the degree situation.

First let me start of my university dose the 3+2 two degree engineering program with Columbia, so seeing the requirements for engineering it would be much easier for me to get a BS in Math than in Chemistry. For chem I'd probably have to take Organic over the summer double up on Chem class a few semesters(while taking engineering + university required classes + lab hours) to even get a BS and I know if I end up with a BA in Chem I'd be useless :/

I mean I'll come straight out and say I like chemistry and physics more than just math but seeing there's essentially no physics major here (unless getting a custom degree) that leaves chemistry or math.
The subjects of engineering I'm interested in are chemical, biochemical, and material science and engineering.
^so see my engineering interests are chemistry related however even though i do love the subject of chemistry will putting in the extra effort to receive a chemistry degree be worth it? [for example graduating with a chem + (any engineering listed above) vs math+...]

The main questions I want answered are:
is the extra effort in getting a BS in Chem worth it?
Would it matter to employers if I had one or the other (seeing if this works out the Columbia degree will over shadow the other)?
Hmm but stating that I'd overshadow the first degree would it overshadow it to the point where it's essentially "unless" like "oh cool he has that degree as well"?

I feel this is more academic related than career so I posted this here :P
 
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Why not go Chemical Engineering? It will cover chemistry concepts, as well as physics concepts.
 
Lamebert said:
Why not go Chemical Engineering? It will cover chemistry concepts, as well as physics concepts.

Maybe i didn't explain my situation well enough I'll end up with two degrees in this program. one being a degree from the university I'm at now (deciding between majoring math or chemistry ).Then the engineering degree from Columbia.

so essentially: Degree from university I'm in now + a Degree in Engineering from Columbia = 2 bacholars

As it stands at them moment I'm on track with a Chem degree but I'm a freshman ( still in the first semester). The Chem class I'm in is an engineering requirement as well meaning no time lost if i switch majors (plus being in calc 2 means I'm slightly ahead for some requirements)

So after I made the issue better understandable...
I still Want an answer to the main questions I want answered are
:
is the extra effort in getting a BS in Chem worth it?
Would it matter to employers if I had one or the other (seeing if this works out the Columbia degree will over shadow the other)?
Hmm but stating that I'd overshadow the first degree would it overshadow it to the point where it's essentially "unless" like "oh cool he has that degree as well"?

[STRIKE]Oh btw thanks for responding anyway just wasn't an answer to my situation :( if it were a simple situation between math and chem then chemical engineering would be a good answer[/STRIKE]
 
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Well, I don't know if Chem + Engineering or Math+Engineering is better or not. However, I do know that if you don't have a pension for abstracting mathematical ideas and PROVING them, then a math degree is a terrible idea. By your Junior year, a good chunk of your courses should no longer be computational in nature and deal with properties of mathematical structures and demonstrating your ability to prove various mathematical ideas. If you do not particularly enjoy this, then your GPA will probably suffer and you'll spend quite a bit of time just suffering through the rest of your degree.

If you enjoy Chemistry more, then just do that. If I understand correctly, you will get a degree in Chemistry, and a degree in Engineering. An Engineering degree is already rather employable, so doing a chemistry degree really can't hurt you. I don't know if the extra work makes it 'worth it', but at the same time, it probably does give you at least a little bit of a leg up for some jobs somewhere.
 
I feel like you're missing something here. It won't just be general "engineering" will it? What good is that for? You'll have to choose a certain discipline in engineering, I'm sure. Columbia offers Chemical, Biomedical, and Materials Science and Engineering.

So go 3+2 Chemical Engineering from Columbia and Math BS. Boom, perfect.
 

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