Cheney is pressing his secret life one step further

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The discussion revolves around the implications of Vice President Cheney's request to keep Secret Service logs confidential, particularly in relation to potential connections with the Jack Abramoff scandal and Halliburton's business dealings. Participants explore themes of government transparency, privacy, and corporate ethics.

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  • Some participants suggest that Cheney's demand for secrecy regarding visitor logs could enable him to conduct government business without oversight, referencing past meetings with energy sector representatives.
  • Others question the implications of Halliburton's move to Dubai, speculating that it may be an attempt to avoid U.S. taxes and legal repercussions.
  • One participant highlights that Halliburton was not the only company with a developed plan for the Iraq invasion, referencing the LogCAP contract and other bidders.
  • Concerns are raised about the balance between personal privacy for public officials and the need for transparency in government dealings.

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Participants express differing views on the appropriateness of Cheney's actions and Halliburton's corporate decisions. There is no consensus on the implications of these actions or their ethical ramifications.

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Participants reference specific events and contracts without resolving the accuracy of claims regarding Halliburton's business practices or the legality of Cheney's request for secrecy.

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Although whatever involves Cheney always seem to involve Bush. Cheney has now demanded that secret service logs showing visitors to his home be kept secret.

It is inferred that in some way this is connected to the Jack Abramoff scandal.


Over the past year, lawyers for President Bush and Cheney have directed the Secret Service to maintain the confidentiality of visitor entry and exit logs, declaring them to be presidential records, exempt from a law requiring their disclosure to whoever asks to see them.

http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/white-house-follows-new-path-to-secrecy/20070530112109990001

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CHENEY_SECRECY?SITE=NJNBH&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2007-05-29-22-40-32
 
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I can see a need for a certain level of privacy on behalf of personal friends. Nothing wrong with that.

But what about people who come for business purposes to the VP's or presdient's home, or governor, or whomever?

With a blanket shield in place, the VP could conduct government business without any oversight - something like he did with the meetings with people in the energy business. That would have been a perfect opportunity to tell the folks at Halliburton that they should plan for an invasion of Iraq, and therefore got inside information and thus were the only organization to have a developed plan in place just prior to the invasion.
 
Even the public officials want to be private citizens now...
 
Astronuc said:
That would have been a perfect opportunity to tell the folks at Halliburton that they should plan for an invasion of Iraq, and therefore got inside information and thus were the only organization to have a developed plan in place just prior to the invasion.

What are you referring to here? The LogCAP contract of 2001? I believe there were two other bidders. They were hardly the only company with a 'developed plan'.
 
BTW have we mentioned that Halliburton is moving it's corporate headquarters from Houston to Dubai.? So far Haliburton has made billions off of the war and is now looking for a way to avoid paying taxes on the American cash they received. Didn't they hear about the Bush tax cuts??:rolleyes:


http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/Politics/story?id=2943017
 
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Haliburton moving it's international headquarters to Dubai has more than a few people wondering, is part of the reason to avoid possible prosecution in the USA?

WASHINGTON - As Halliburton held its annual meeting Wednesday in Houston, Texas, the Washington-based Corpwatch released its own “Alternative Annual Report” which details the alleged wrongdoings of the company and its former subsidiary, Kellogg Brown and Root (KBR), and questions the motivation behind Halliburton’s planned move to the United Arab Emirates.

Despite being one of the 10 largest contractors for the United States’ military, Halliburton announced in March that it will open a new headquarters in Dubai. Critics believe the expansion is a possible bid to avoid U.S. taxes and shield top executives from prosecution in the U.S. justice system.

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/05/18/1299/

Not having to pay taxes and keeping their sorry asses out of jail is a great incentive to move out of the USA.
 
edward said:
BTW have we mentioned that Halliburton is moving it's corporate headquarters from Houston to Dubai

How about that. So much for the old red, white, and blue.

But we already knew that didn't we.
 

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