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News CIA Director David Petraeus submitted his resignation Friday

  1. Nov 9, 2012 #1

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    http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/0...ubmits-resignation-over-extra-marital-affair/

     
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  3. Nov 9, 2012 #2

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    This really surprised me.

    Well, he can always go into politics :biggrin:.
     
  4. Nov 9, 2012 #3

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    Conspiracy theories have been deleted. They are not allowed on this forum.
     
  5. Nov 9, 2012 #4
    Her Name Is Paula Broadwell. They allegedly had an affair. She was his biographer and they used to run together during interviews. The name of her book is "All In":blushing: She was embedded with him in Afghanistan.

    Here she is on the Daily Show.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/paul...raeus-biographer-daily-show-interview-2012-11

    OK so the books sub title is: The Education of General David Petraeus

    It looks like his education is complete now.
     
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  6. Nov 9, 2012 #5

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    This is unfortunuate. I had the honor to meet him while in Iraq and then again in Afghanistan. He came off as one of the few generals who took time to actual consider the poor ground pounders in the mud. I have a lot of respect for the guy. As far as I can tell, he was doing a pretty darn good job at the CIA.
     
  8. Nov 9, 2012 #7
    He and Bill Clinton would make a great President-VP pair!
     
  9. Nov 9, 2012 #8
    If he leaked classified evidence, he should resign. But not because had some extra-marital affair. That has nothing to do with him being able to conduct his job. Stay out of this man's sex life!
     
  10. Nov 10, 2012 #9

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    General Petraeus did the right thing to resign. As CIA director, this could have been held over his head by a master spy as this is one of the common methods of causing someone to betray his country (honeypot).

    Other methods include disgruntled employees or money or jailing a close relative in another country.

    As the story unfolds it implies the FBI was tracking some strange email activity meaning spylike activity that lead to exposing the affair.

    I hope he, his wife and his family recover from this and that he returns to service. He's done many great things for our soldiers and for resolving the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    The great Irish politician Parnell was brought down by a similar scandal and the end result was that Ireland waited a few more decades before it became free of English rule.
     
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    Well put.
     
  12. Nov 10, 2012 #11

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    It speaks negatively of his character and due to the nature of the job, the military (particularly officers) are held to high standards of character than civilians are used to.

    Since he has only been out of the military for a year and presumably had this affair while still in active duty status, I could see the military going after his retirement pay.
     
  13. Nov 10, 2012 #12

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    That was either a very good or very poor choice of word. :devil:

    And the biographer's name ("Broadwell") in this context sounds like a character made up by the Onion "News" Network. :rofl:
     
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  14. Nov 10, 2012 #13

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    I'm sure she agreed (vociferously, multiple times). Since he was "all in" and all.
     
  15. Nov 10, 2012 #14

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    It is an unfortunate disappointment. General Petraeus took personal responsibililty and did the right thing in resigning. As CIA director, an affair could potentially adversely affect national security.

    As Russ indicated, miltary officers are held to a high standard of conduct. And when one gets involved in national security, one's life comes under close scrutiny.

    The FBI counter-intelligence was investigating the relationship between Petraeus and Broadwell. It is not so much about the affair as it is about the disclosure of national security information.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/10/us/citing-affair-petraeus-resigns-as-cia-director.htm [Broken]

    I hope General Petraeus can reconcile with his family.
     
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  16. Nov 10, 2012 #15

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    There's a (formal) difference between US military rules for enlisted men and officers?

    Also, I've heard that the US President commands the armed forces, but is he technically considered civilian or uniformed?

    (Sorry, I know this is common knowledge to US citizens, but I'm not one.)
     
  17. Nov 10, 2012 #16

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    In some cases, yes: http://usmilitary.about.com/od/justicelawlegislation/a/fraternization.-ukn.htm
    He is a civilian and that's a very important distinction in the US that doesn't exist in some countries. Eisenhower, for example, had to resign from the army before becoming President.
     
  18. Nov 10, 2012 #17
    In all seriousness they spent a lot of time toghether in Afghanistan. She was't just some low life. They actually had a lot in common including the fact that they both are runners, and both military.

    Broadwell grew up in Bismarck, North Dakota and attended Century High School, where she was homecoming queen and valedictorian for the class of 1991.[5] Broadwell graduated from the United States Military Academy at West Point in 1995. She earned a master's degree from the University of Denver's Josef Korbel School of International Studies in 2006.[6][7] She earned a Master of Public Administration from the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University.[8] She has served as Director of the Jebsen Center for Counter-Terrorism Studies at The Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University. She later entered the Ph.D. program at Department of War Studies at King's College London.[9] She served in the United States Army and the United States Army Reserve. She was promoted to lieutenant colonel in the Reserves in summer 2012.[1]

    Broadwell has written for the New York Times and the Boston Globe.[10][11] Her biography of Petraeus, All In, was published in January 2012.[12] In November 2012, law enforcement officials said Broadwell was being investigated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation for improperly trying to access Petraeus' email.[13][14]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_Broadwell

    http://www.businessinsider.com/paul...raeus-biographer-daily-show-interview-2012-11

    This may have been an old fashioned love affair, it happens.
     
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  19. Nov 10, 2012 #18

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    Like most people I don't really care about her or his love life. I do care about the nation security of the country. The man was open to compromise before he ever took the CIA job and either lied about it during his background investigation or told the truth and a determination was made at the executive level it didn't warrant disqualification. Either way it was a ticking time-bomb that the woman could trigger at anytime. The proper thing should have been to not take the job in the first place.
     
  20. Nov 10, 2012 #19

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    I didn't realize that she was in the military. That makes it worse. I expect she will be dishonorably discharged because of this.
     
  21. Nov 10, 2012 #20

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    Not sure where this fits into the picture either - see "Current Research" at the bottom of the web page. Looks like what the French call "l'ecole horizontale"...
    http://www.kcl.ac.uk/sspp/departments/warstudies/people/phd/broadwell.aspx [Broken]
     
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