Circle inscribed in a triangle exercise

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The discussion revolves around a geometry problem involving a circle inscribed in triangle ABC. Participants are tasked with calculating an angle, denoted as X, based on the properties of the triangle and the inscribed circle.

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  • Participants explore the relationships between angles in the triangle and the properties of the inscribed circle. There are attempts to clarify the role of the circle and the parallelism of certain line segments. Questions arise regarding the assumptions made about the triangle's properties, such as whether it is isosceles.

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The conversation includes various interpretations of the problem setup, with some participants questioning the completeness of the given information. Insights have been shared regarding angle relationships and the implications of the inscribed circle, but no consensus has been reached on the assumptions or the solution process.

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Participants note that the problem may lack explicit information, particularly regarding the angles and the nature of triangle ABC. There is also discussion about the necessity of certain assumptions for progressing towards a solution.

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Homework Statement



In the drawing you can see a circumference inscribed in the triangle ABC (See the picture in the following link). Calculate the value of X

https://goo.gl/photos/CAacV2dJbUrywfXv92. The attempt at a solution

It seems I found a solution for this exercise with the help of a CAD software. However, according to the software T1T2 // AB, <T1AB = <T2BA and X=20°. But I really don't understand why.

I hope you can give me some insights on how to solve this exercise.

Thank you in advance,

Richard
 
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Richard Quispe said:

Homework Statement



In the drawing you can see a circumference inscribed in the triangle ABC (See the picture in the following link). Calculate the value of X
Exercise[1].jpg


2. The attempt at a solution

It seems I found a solution for this exercise with the help of a CAD software. However, according to the software T1T2 // AB, <T1AB = <T2BA and X=20°. But I really don't understand why.

I hope you can give me some insights on how to solve this exercise.
The figure inscribed in the triangle is a circle. A circle has a circumference.

Above, you say that T1T2 || AB, and that the two base angles of the triangle are congruent. What else is given in the problem? The picture shows a couple of angles of 40° and 30°. Is this also given information?

What's the purpose of the circle? It doesn't look like it has anything to do with this problem. Line segment T1T2 doesn't appear to go through the center of the circle, and the upper vertex of the smaller triangle doesn't appear to have anything to do with the circle.
 
Thanks for the reply, the only given data is what is shown in the picture. Yes T1T2 doesn't go through the center, but the segment that comes from A do.

The additional information I mentioned comes from my attempted solution (CAD software) but I'm not sure
 
How was this problem presented to you? Is it from a book? I can't help thinking that there is information missing.

Where is the center of the circle? Is it where the the dashed line meets the line coming from A?
 
Yes, it is an exercise from a book, the center is at the beginning of the dashed line. Can I safely say this exercise has missing information?
 
The part where the angles have equal measure is the assumption that this triangle ABC is isosceles.
If T1T2 is parallel to AB, then you have all kinds of tools to fill in the measures of the angles.

I suppose these assumptions are easy enough to justify based on the definition of the inscribed circle. I think it would be nicer if it were explicit in the problem.

From there, you can use the right angle from the triangle (let's call it ABD) to find the measure of the angle T2DB...this is clearly congruent to the angle DBA.
Now you fill in your angles to find the base angles of the isosceles triangle. Your angle x will be what's left to make 180.
 
RUber said:
From there, you can use the right angle from the triangle (let's call it ABD)
It's not given that ∠ABD is a right angle, where I assume that you mean that D is the point on segment T1T2. How can we make this assumption?
 
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RUber said:
The part where the angles have equal measure is the assumption that this triangle ABC is isosceles.
If T1T2 is parallel to AB, then you have all kinds of tools to fill in the measures of the angles.

I suppose these assumptions are easy enough to justify based on the definition of the inscribed circle. I think it would be nicer if it were explicit in the problem.

If you are thinking T1T2 is parallel to AB because T1 and T2 are where the incircle intersects the sides of the triangle, I don't suppose that is "easy enough to justify". It is false in general and seems likely to be equivalent to the angles at A and B being equal. And that isn't given either.
 
Hi,

I think I finally understood the solution for this exercise. I've uploaded an additional image with the solution

https://goo.gl/photos/CAacV2dJbUrywfXv9

First find out <OBA=50°, since OB bisects <ABT2, <OBD=10°.
The trickiest part of this exercise was finding out that the quadrilateral ODT2B can be inscribed in a circle. Which can be proved because <ODT2+<OBT2=180°. Then Φ=10°, <T1T2C=<T2T1C=80°. Therefore X=20°.
Additionally <T2DB=50° which demonstrates T1T2 // AB.

Thank you all for the effort put in this exercise.

Richard
 
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Richard Quispe said:
Hi,

I think I finally understood the solution for this exercise. I've uploaded an additional image with the solution

https://goo.gl/photos/CAacV2dJbUrywfXv9

First find out <OBA=50°.

Apparently you mean <DBA = 50°, not <OBA=50°. And how do you see that?
 
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LCKurtz, you are right <OBA=50°, we can obtain that value by checking the angles in the triangle ADB
 
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Richard Quispe said:
LCKurtz, you are right <DBA=50°, we can obtain that value by checking the angles in the triangle ADB
 
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Richard Quispe said:
First find out <OBA=50°, since OB bisects <ABT2, <OBD=10°.

Can you or perhaps someone else explain to me how to determine ##OB## bisects ##\angle ABT_2## please?

808020triangle.jpg
 

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