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The problem involves a cube inscribed in a sphere with a diameter of 1, and participants are discussing how to determine the surface area of the cube.

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  • The original poster attempts to use calculus to find the area related to the cube's dimensions, integrating a function derived from the circle's equation.
  • Some participants question the placement of the circle's center and suggest that the sphere's center should be at the origin.
  • Others propose a geometric approach, noting the relationship between the cube's diagonal and its edges.
  • There is a discussion about whether calculus is necessary for solving the problem.

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Participants are exploring different methods to approach the problem, including both calculus and geometric reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the geometric interpretation of the cube's dimensions, but no consensus has been reached on the best method.

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There are questions about the assumptions made regarding the sphere's center and the use of calculus versus geometry in solving the problem. The original poster's method involves integration, while others suggest simpler geometric relationships.

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Problem :

A cube is inscribed in a sphere of diameter 1. What is the surface area of the cube?


Solution (attempted!) :

Let there be a circle of radius 0.5 with centre at (0, 0.5).

The equation of this circle is therefore:

[tex]x^2 + (y-0.5)^\frac{1}{2} = 0.5^2[/tex]

[tex]x = (y-y^2)^\frac{1}{2}[/tex]

Integrate x with respect to y gives the area to the left of the curve.

So :

Let [tex]x = (y-y^2)^\frac{3}{2}[/tex]

Let [tex]u = (y-y^2)<br /> <br /> \Rightarrow x = u^\frac{3}{2}[/tex]

And

[tex]\frac{\delta x}{\delta y} = \frac{\delta x}{\delta u} \cdot \frac{\delta u}{\delta y}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{\delta x}{\delta u} = \frac{3}{2} u^\frac{1}{2} = \frac{3}{2} (y-y^2)^\frac{1}{2}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{\delta u}{\delta y} = 1 - 2y[/tex]

[tex]\Rightarrow \frac{\delta x}{\delta y} = (\frac{3}{2} (y-y^2)^\frac{1}{2}) \cdot (1 - 2y)[/tex]

[tex]\Rightarrow \frac{\delta x}{\delta y} = (y-y^2)^\frac{1}{2} \cdot (\frac{3}{2} - 3y)[/tex]

So :

[tex]\int_{a}^{b} (y-y^2)^\frac{1}{2} dy = \frac{(y-y^2)^\frac{3}{2}}{(\frac{3}{2} - 3y)} + C[/tex]

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Let B and A be defined by this drawing!

B has co-ordinates (0.5,0.5)

To find A co-ordinates. Consider the diagonal line. It is a diameter and thus has length 1.

The edge of the square therefore has length [tex]\sqrt{\frac{1}{2}}[/tex]

Therefore A has y co-ordinate [tex]0.5 - \sqrt{\frac{1}{2}}[/tex]

[tex]\Rightarrow \int_{0.5 - \sqrt{\frac{1}{2}}}^{\frac{1}{2}} (y-y^2)^\frac{1}{2} dy = \left[\frac{(y-y^2)^\frac{3}{2}}{(\frac{3}{2} - 3y)}\right]_{0.5 - \sqrt{\frac{1}{2}}}^{\frac{1}{2}}} = I[/tex]

[tex]\Rightarrow 0.5^2\pi - 4(I - (\frac{1}{2})^2) = Surface area of 1 face[/tex]

Then times by 6 to get SA of cube

Is this correct?
 
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why is the circle at (0,0.5)? what is wrong with the origin? Also, is a sphere, not a circle, so the centre can be considered to be at (0,0,0). so, [tex]x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = 0.5[/tex], if a cube is inside it, then x = y = z where they touch, so [tex]3r^2 = 0.5[/tex], this is the distance along each axis (r), from the origin to the point of contact between the cube and the sphere, so the length of one side is double that, then the suface are is simply that squared and multiplied by 6 - Therefore, from all that I've done, if the method is right, the answer is 1.
 
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Ye I did it that way too! (After I saw your post!)

But was wondering if my method beared water?

6 I = 1 ?!
 
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You don't need any calculus. You know that a diagonal across the interior of the cube has length 1. So a line segment from the center to a cube corner has length 1/2. You know that any adjacent 2 of such line segments are perpendicular. You know that the third side of the triangle formed by those 2 adjacent line segments is a diagonal across a face of the cube. One more step and you have found the length of an edge of the cube, from which the cube's surface area is simple to compute.
 

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