Circular motion of a car on a banked road

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The discussion centers on calculating the reactive forces acting on a car's tires while navigating a banked road. Participants emphasize the importance of analyzing vertical forces (##R_ya## and ##R_yb##) and horizontal forces (##R_xa## and ##R_xb##) to achieve a dynamic balance. The solution involves summing all horizontal and vertical forces, as well as moments, to determine the forces at each tire. A key takeaway is the necessity to consider all four tires individually rather than in pairs for accurate calculations.

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Homework Statement
A car of mass 1120 kg is travelling along a curved UN banked road of radius 60 m. Its wheel tract is 135 m and its center of gravity is 0.9 m above the ground, and midway between front and rear axles. The coefficient of friction is 0.5. Find (a) the vertical ground reaction at each wheel when the car is travelling at 15 m/s; (b) the maximum speed without overturning; (c) the skidding speed.
Relevant Equations
f=(m v^2)/r
w=mg
f=u w
f=(m v^2)/r
 
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You will have to make an attempt before anyone can help you
 
oh i did ,,, lots of times:cry::cry:
 
i can't get the answer right ,, took the question from hannah and hillier
 
MIN JIN said:
oh i did ,,, lots of times:cry::cry:

Let rephrase: you will have to show us an attempt before we can help.
 
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please help ,,, been at it for the whole day !
 
Cutter Ketch said:
Let rephrase: you will have to show us an attempt before we can help.
alright ,,lemme take pictures of my "ATTEMPTS"
 
MIN JIN said:
alright ,,lemme take pictures of my "ATTEMPTS"
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(b) and (c) are fine , its the reactions at the tires that i do not get
 
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Someone pleaasee crack question a.:cry::cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
 
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MIN JIN said:
Someone pleaasee crack question a.:cry::cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Beginning with question a):
Revise the reactive forces that your car "feels" on the two left and two right tires.
There are vertical forces, let's name those ##R_ya## and ##R_yb##
There are horizontal forces, let's name those ##R_xa## and ##R_xb##

In order to determine the values of those vertical forces, you will need to add up all the horizontal forces, all the vertical forces and all the moments, all of which should equal zero, since the car is in a dynamic balance.
From those three equations, you will be able to calculate the requested vertical forces.
 
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MIN JIN said:
(b) and (c) are fine , its the reactions at the tires that i do not get
Then why did you post your (successful) attempts at b) and c) but not an attempt at a)?
 
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Lnewqban said:
Beginning with question a):
Revise the reactive forces that your car "feels" on the two left and two right tires.
There are vertical forces, let's name those ##R_ya## and ##R_yb##
There are horizontal forces, let's name those ##R_xa## and ##R_xb##

In order to determine the values of those vertical forces, you will need to add up all the horizontal forces, all the vertical forces and all the moments, all of which should equal zero, since the car is in a dynamic balance.
From those three equations, you will be able to calculate the requested vertical forces.
Thanks so much ,this helped a lot , i found it
 
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Turns i simply forgot the fact that the're 2 inner wheels and 2 outer ones , total of four ,, had to find reactions at "EACH" WHEEL ,not a pair.
 
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