Circular Orbits and weightlessness

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The discussion revolves around the concept of weightlessness in the context of a projectile launched parallel to the ground at a height of 1 meter. Participants explore whether a bug inside the projectile experiences weightlessness while orbiting a smooth, airless planet.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the bug, including gravity and the absence of air resistance. Questions arise about the nature of weightlessness and the conditions required for it, particularly in relation to orbital mechanics.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes various interpretations of weightlessness and the forces involved in orbital motion. Some participants suggest reading external sources for clarification, while others express confusion about the relationship between gravity and the sensation of weightlessness.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of misunderstanding regarding the definitions of weightlessness and the role of gravity in orbital motion. Participants are encouraged to clarify these concepts without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement



A small projectile is launched parallel to the ground at height h = 1 m with sufficient speed to orbit a completely smooth, airless planet. A bug rides in a small hole inside the projectile. Is the bug weightless? Explain.

The Attempt at a Solution



I didnt understand the concept and the question so i don't know a way to start :(
 
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Well you need to start by looking at what forces (or more appropriately, accelerations) the bug will be experiencing. Do you know what they are?
 
jarednjames said:
Well you need to start by looking at what forces (or more appropriately, accelerations) the bug will be experiencing. Do you know what they are?

there certainly is Force of gravity acting downward. no air resistance coz its airless.
and nothing more i can think of
 
Really? So astronauts only experience gravity? Would they still be weightless if this was the case?
 
jarednjames said:
Really? So astronauts only experience gravity? Would they still be weightless if this was the case?

yes coz they don't have any normal force i guess
 
Gravity is an acceleration towards the earth. When gravity is the only force, it pulls you straight down towards the planet at Xm/s2. To be in a stable orbit (and subsequently experience weightlessness), you need to provide a specific velocity.

The projectile is neither ascending nor descending. Which means the acceleration downwards, towards the planet is equal to the centripetal acceleration.

It is in freefall.

Now, you know there's gravity acting downwards, but is anything acting upwards?

If the forces on the spacecraft are balanced so that it remains at a constant altitude, is the bug also experiencing those forces? If not, why not?
 
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yea i know forces always comes in pair

and there is no Tension force hmmm is is the gravitational force by the projectile on the Earth (although i doubt it)
 
OR is it true that if there is no air in the planet then there is no gravity and if there is no gravity the thing keeps on moving in a constant velocity?

sorry man i am all over the place not just good with physics
 
Forces come in pairs? You're discussing the wrong thing.

The presence of air on a planet has nothing to do with gravity (at least it's negligable as far as you're concerned).

Forget all that stuff you just wrote, start below:

I'm going to point you to some sources for you to read as you don't appear to understand the mechanics of orbit and weightlessness.

These two are important for you to read, the second has a question for you to try:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/mechanics/hump.html
http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/circles/u6l4d.cfm

This is a bit detailed, but if you feel like expanding it's a good read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weightlessness
 
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So is the bug weightless?
 
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yes it is weightless but i am still kinda confused as u point out earlier "When gravity is the only force, it pulls you straight down towards the planet " so why isn't the astronaut orbitting Earth come straight to Earth.
Is gravity centripetal force then?
 
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Sorry, error there (it's late I'm thinking of the wrong thing).

Gravity is the only force acting on the projectile / craft.

The orbital velocity gives centripetal acceleration towards the centre of the planet.

The projectile is constantly falling towards the planet, giving you the sensation of weightlessness.

Imagine, when you jump off something and you're falling. It's like that, but because of your orbital velocity you never hit the ground.

Read through that link I gave you, it explains it far better than I could.
 
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suwarna07 said:
Is the bug weightless? Explain.
The answer is "It depends."

In particular, it depends completely on what you mean by "weightless". What do you mean by "weightless"? (Or even more important, what does your teacher / your textbook mean by the term?)
 
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jarednjames said:
Imagine, when you jump off something and you're falling. It's like that, but because of your orbital velocity you never hit the ground.

Read through that link I gave you, it explains it far better than I could.

just like a ball moving in a uniform circular velcoity
 
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D H said:
The answer is "It depends."

In particular, completit depends ely on what you mean by "weightless". What do you mean by "weightless"? (Or even more important, what does your teacher / your textbook mean by the term?)

its when u feel weightless
 

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