Doubling speed in circular orbit to attain elliptical orbit

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The problem involves a satellite in a circular orbit around a planet, which undergoes a sudden doubling of its speed due to engine propulsion. The goal is to determine the semi-major axis of the new orbit, which is expected to be elliptical or possibly hyperbolic.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of doubling the satellite's speed and question the nature of the resulting orbit, considering concepts such as escape velocity and the characteristics of elliptical versus hyperbolic orbits.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, with participants suggesting that the new orbit may not be elliptical but rather hyperbolic due to the speed increase. Some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of the provided answer choices in relation to the problem's setup.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the question appears to be multiple choice, raising concerns about the accuracy of the answer key in light of the discussed implications of the satellite's speed change.

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Homework Statement


A satellite is in a circular orbit (radius R) around a planet of mass M. To change the satellite's orbit the engines fire and its speed is suddenly doubled. The engines fire for a very short time. Determine the length of the semi-major axis of the new orbit.

Homework Equations


##v = \sqrt{GM(2/r - 1/a)}##
##\frac{-GMm}{2a} = \frac{1}{2}mv^2 - \frac{GMm}{r}##

The Attempt at a Solution


The velocity of the satellite prior to any propulsion is ##v = \sqrt{GM(2/r - 1/a)} = \sqrt{GM/R}## because ##a = r## for circular orbits.
Right after propulsion, we have ##2v = \sqrt{GM(2/r - 1/a)} = \sqrt{GM(2/R - 1/a)}##. If I square this, I get ##4v^2 = GM(2/R - 1/a) = 4GM/R## after substitution. Then, ##2/R - 1/a = 4/R## and ##a = -R/2##, but that isn't possible because ##a > 0## for elliptical orbits.

If I use energy, I end up with the same thing. Where have I gone wrong?
 
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Perhaps you haven't done anything wrong...

Consider that escape speed is just ##\sqrt{2}## times the circular orbit speed at a given radius. Here you're doubling the speed. So what type of orbit should you end up with?
 
gneill said:
Perhaps you haven't done anything wrong...

Consider that escape speed is just ##\sqrt{2}## times the circular orbit speed at a given radius. Here you're doubling the speed. So what type of orbit should you end up with?
An unbounded one?

EDIT: more specifically a hyperbolic one, where a < 0 is perfectly fine. That's interesting since this question actually is multiple choice in my notes, with answers choices a) R b) 1.5R c) 2R d) 2.5R or e) 4R. The key must be wrong then.
 
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ln( said:
An unbounded one?
Yes indeed!
EDIT: more specifically a hyperbolic one, where a < 0 is perfectly fine. That's interesting since this question actually is multiple choice in my notes, with answers choices a) R b) 1.5R c) 2R d) 2.5R or e) 4R. The key must be wrong then.
Yup. The probably changed the question and forgot to update the answers.
 

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