Change in momentum for a satellite in circular orbit

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The problem involves a satellite in a circular orbit around the Earth, specifically examining the change in momentum as it passes over the equator in different directions. The satellite's mass and orbital height are provided, along with relevant gravitational constants and equations related to motion in circular orbits.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the nature of velocity in circular orbits, questioning the distinction between speed and velocity as vector quantities. There is exploration of how changes in direction affect momentum despite constant speed.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the relationship between velocity and momentum. Some have offered analogies to clarify these concepts, while others are still grappling with the implications of direction changes on momentum.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of vector quantities and their implications in the context of orbital mechanics. There is an acknowledgment of the satellite's motion relative to the Earth's orbit around the sun, though the focus remains on the satellite's immediate motion.

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Homework Statement



A satellite is in a circular orbit passing over the North and South geographical poles as it orbits the Earth. It has a mass of 2200kg and its orbit height is 870km above the Earth's surface. What is the change in momentum of the satellite from when it passes over the equator heading North, to when it next passes over the equator?[/B]

Homework Equations



m (satellite) = 2.2 x 10^3 kg
M (Earth) = 5.98 x 10^24 kg
R = r(earth) + h(satellite) = 6.37 x 10^6 m + 8.7 x 10^5 m = 7.24 x 10^6 m
G = 6.673 x 10^-11 m^3 kg^-1 s^-2

v = SQR (G)(M)/R
a = v^2/R
F(centripetal) = (m(satellite) x v^2)/r
T = (2pi x R)/v

m(1)v(1)r(1) = m(2)v(2)r(2) due to conservation of angular momentum.

The Attempt at a Solution



So v = 7.424 x 10^3 m/s and a = 7.61 m/s. T = 6.127 x 10^3 s or 1.7 hours. Centripetal force = 1.67 x 10^16 N

And here is where I got stuck. Isn't velocity constant in circular orbit? So why is there a change in momentum? Many thanks in advance.
 
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Peter Coe said:
Isn't velocity constant in circular orbit? So why is there a change in momentum?
Is velocity a vector or a scalar?
 
Peter Coe said:
Isn't velocity constant in circular orbit?
No, speed is constant, but velocity amd momentum are vectors.
There is also the subtlety that the Earth is orbiting the sun, so the satellite's orbit is not a simple circle, but I doubt the question intends you to worry about that.
 
So I'd be wrong to say that the magnitude of the relative velocity does not change in circular orbit? I'm aware the nature of the direction does, and that velocity is a vector quantity - but how does that produce a quantifiable change in momentum?
 
Peter Coe said:
I'm aware the nature of the direction does, and that velocity is a vector quantity - but how does that produce a quantifiable change in momentum?
Say you have a billiards ball moving to the right with velocity V. It hits another ball, and as a result ends up moving to the left with the same magnitude of velocity, but opposite direction.
Do you think there was a change in momentum in this case or not?
 
Peter Coe said:
So I'd be wrong to say that the magnitude of the relative velocity does not change
No, you'd be right to say that, but the magnitude is the speed, and there is more to velocity than just speed.
Peter Coe said:
velocity is a vector quantity - but how does that produce a quantifiable change in momentum?
Suppose a particle starts with velocity ##\vec v##, and this consists of speed |v| in the +x direction. If it later still has speed |v| but is now traveling in the -x direction, what has been the change in velocity?
 
haruspex said:
No, you'd be right to say that, but the magnitude is the speed, and there is more to velocity than just speed.

Suppose a particle starts with velocity ##\vec v##, and this consists of speed |v| in the +x direction. If it later still has speed |v| but is now traveling in the -x direction, what has been the change in velocity?
Bandersnatch said:
Say you have a billiards ball moving to the right with velocity V. It hits another ball, and as a result ends up moving to the left with the same magnitude of velocity, but opposite direction.
Do you think there was a change in momentum in this case or not?

Well the change in velocity/momentum would be a negative value relative to its original position. Ahhh, I see.. assign +ve and -ve.. Thanks
 

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