Circular trajectory traveled by a charged particle in a magnetic field

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The discussion focuses on the circular trajectory of charged particles in a magnetic field, specifically addressing the Lorentz force and its implications for both positively and negatively charged particles. The formula derived for the radius of the trajectory is given by \( r = \frac{mv}{qB} \), where \( m \) is mass, \( v \) is velocity, \( q \) is charge, and \( B \) is the magnetic field strength. It is clarified that while the charge \( q \) affects the direction of the Lorentz force, the radius remains positive as it is expressed in terms of magnitude, thus avoiding negative values for negatively charged particles.

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Homework Statement
Derive the general formula for the radius of the trajectory traveled by a charged particle in a magnetic field ##\vec{B}## perpendicular to its velocity ##\vec{v}##.
Relevant Equations
Centripetal force: ##F_{C}=\frac{mv^2}{r}##
The Lorentz's force acting on a charged particle perpendicularly "hitting" a magnetic field will be directed upwards, and generally directed towards the center of the circumference traveled by this particle, and so will cause a centripetal acceleration to keep it in a circular motion.
By equalling the centripetal force formula which causes this acceleration, to the Lorentz's force acting on the particle(considering ##\theta = 90^{\circ}##), will give us:
$$qvB=\frac{mv^2}{r}\rightarrow r=\frac{mv}{qB}$$
Now, my question is: how do we treat negatively charged particles? By this formula, wouldn't their radiuses be ##<0##, since ##r\propto \frac{1}{q}##?
I can't understand why we don't use the absolute value of ##q##, since(correct me if I'm wrong), even in case of a negative charge the trajectory doesn't change, apart from the Lorentz's force direction(which would be inverted).
 
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apart from the Lorentz's force direction(which would be inverted).
Right ! So the trajectory curves in the opposite direction !
 
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Bear in mind that a force is a vector: it has magnitude and a direction.
The expression for the Lorentz force is a vector equation and all three of ##q##, ##\vec v ## and ##\vec B## determine the direction. Your ##r= {mv\over qB}## is written as a scalar equation containing only magnitudes (and units).
 
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greg_rack said:
Homework Statement:: Derive the general formula for the radius of the trajectory traveled by a charged particle in a magnetic field ##\vec{B}## perpendicular to its velocity ##\vec{v}##.
Relevant Equations:: Centripetal force: ##F_{C}=\frac{mv^2}{r}##

The Lorentz's force acting on a charged particle perpendicularly "hitting" a magnetic field will be directed upwards, and generally directed towards the center of the circumference traveled by this particle, and so will cause a centripetal acceleration to keep it in a circular motion.
By equalling the centripetal force formula which causes this acceleration, to the Lorentz's force acting on the particle(considering ##\theta = 90^{\circ}##), will give us:
$$qvB=\frac{mv^2}{r}\rightarrow r=\frac{mv}{qB}$$
Now, my question is: how do we treat negatively charged particles? By this formula, wouldn't their radiuses be ##<0##, since ##r\propto \frac{1}{q}##?
I can't understand why we don't use the absolute value of ##q##, since(correct me if I'm wrong), even in case of a negative charge the trajectory doesn't change, apart from the Lorentz's force direction(which would be inverted).
Yes, it's the magnitude of the whole thing:$$r=\big | \frac{mv}{qB} \big |$$
 
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