Clarification for a standing wave on a string equation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the interpretation of an equation related to standing waves on a string, specifically focusing on the correct formulation of sine functions within the equation. Participants are exploring the mathematical representation and implications of the variables involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents two possible forms of the equation involving sine functions and seeks clarification on whether the variables x and t are included within the sine function or multiplied separately.
  • Another participant asserts that the correct interpretation is the first option, where the variables are included within the sine function.
  • A different participant expresses confusion about the original question and requests further clarification on the doubt regarding standing waves.
  • One participant elaborates on the implications of the two forms, arguing that the first option describes a wave function with varying properties, while the second option does not represent a wave due to the constants involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is disagreement regarding the correct interpretation of the equation. Some participants support the first option as the correct form, while others question the clarity of the original inquiry and the implications of the different formulations.

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Participants have noted issues with image uploads that may affect the clarity of the discussion. The interpretation of the sine functions is contingent on understanding the role of the variables x and t in the context of standing waves.

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Hello,

Came across https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bpB7BcVf1yQLiwg9quAn2vlhu8-i6Zy_/view and I'm not sure about one thing

For the 2 parts of the equation with sin, is it:
1. [...sin(kx)]sin(wt)

or is it:
2. [...sin(k)*x]sin(w)*t

Thank you

-DR
 
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First, a friendly tip about images: use the UPLOAD button at the bottom of the posting box, then use the option to display as a full image instead of a thumbnail. Then people can see the image directly and don't have to click the link to access your Google Drive.

The answer to your question is choice "1."
 
rudy said:
Hello,

Came across https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bpB7BcVf1yQLiwg9quAn2vlhu8-i6Zy_/view and I'm not sure about one thing

For the 2 parts of the equation with sin, is it:
1. [...sin(kx)]sin(wt)

or is it:
2. [...sin(k)*x]sin(w)*t

Thank you

-DR
I am unable to understand what actually is you doubt regarding the standing waves, please make it clear in the post.
 
Sorry about that... I did try to upload but when I previewed my post I kept getting a "broken image link" symbol (does the image only appear once the post is published?)

And to clarify my question, I was wondering if the variables (x and t) are included inside the sine function parenthesis or if it is multiplied separately.

I'll rewrite 2. as:
[...x*sin(k)]t*sin(w)

and 1. was:
[...sin(kx)]sin(wt)

thanks jt
 
rudy said:
Sorry about that... I did try to upload but when I previewed my post I kept getting a "broken image link" symbol (does the image only appear once the post is published?)

And to clarify my question, I was wondering if the variables (x and t) are included inside the sine function parenthesis or if it is multiplied separately.

I'll rewrite 2. as:
[...x*sin(k)]t*sin(w)

and 1. was:
[...sin(kx)]sin(wt)

thanks jt
1 is right, the variables x and t should be within the sine function parenthesis.
 
If you look at 1., it describes a function that has k cycles per metre and a time variation that's proportional to ω. This describes a function with a range of frequencies and nodes.; it looks like a wave of some sort. The other expression (2.) has the k and ω inside the sin functions. These are both constants and so are sin(k) and sin(ω) so it doesn't describe a function that varies at all! It can't be a wave.
It's important to try to interpret what a formula actually does when you can. It gives a good insight into the relationship between the Maths and the Physics of a situation. It can be worth while even when some of the functions are not familiar.
 

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