Clarification in the definition of particle

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The discussion centers on the definition of a particle in classical mechanics, specifically the terms "idealized body" and "internal structure." An idealized body is described as having no spatial extension, existing at a single point, while "internal structure" refers to the ability to divide an object into smaller components. Some participants argue that the definition is inadequate, stating that even protons, which have internal structures, should still be considered particles. The conversation also touches on the distinction between fundamental and composite particles, emphasizing that composite particles can be treated as single units despite being made of smaller parts. Ultimately, the definition's applicability in classical mechanics is affirmed by some, while others seek a broader interpretation.
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A red a book in classical mechanics , the author says A particle is an idealised body that occupies only a single point of space and has no internal structure clarify me these terms Idealised body and Internal structure
 
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I disagree with that definition. Idealised body doesn't mean anything special. Internal structure means what it is made of or what is inside. An atom has internal structure because it is made of electrons and a nucleus. The internal structure of a nucleus is protons and neutrons.
Protons are made of quarks. But it's silly to say a proton is not a particle. Of course it is. So that definition is wrong.

A particle is something that you can count. Quantized lumps of energy. I don't know of a better definition.
 
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Khashishi said:
I disagree with that definition.

OP was asking in the context of classical mechanics, and in that context the definition is just fine.

Loosely speaking, an idealized body with no internal structure is one with no spatial extension (we can say that it is at a single point in space, as opposed to something like a bacterium, which occupies a volume of space a few microns wide), and "no internal structure" means that we cannot divide the body into smaller components that we can analyze separately.
 
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A fundamental particle cannot be divided further. A composite particle is something that is composed of smaller parts, but can be treated as a single object. By single object, I mean the parts are all bound together, so the group can move around as a unit.
 
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