Clarifying entanglement and complimentarity

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of entanglement, interference, complementarity, and the uncertainty principle in quantum mechanics. Participants explore the relationships between these concepts, particularly in the context of single and two-photon interference, and how they relate to coherence and entanglement.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants state that perfectly entangled particles exhibit no single particle interference, while partially entangled particles can show partial single particle interference.
  • It is proposed that entangled particles can interfere with each other, with references to Hong-Ou-Mandel interference as an example.
  • There is a suggestion that one and two-photon interference exhibit a tradeoff, where increased entanglement leads to decreased single particle interference, although the meaning of "complementarity" in this context is questioned.
  • Participants discuss the coherence of entangled particles, noting that if one particle (A) is in a coherent state, it may be less entangled with another particle (B), referencing the concept of monogamy of entanglement.
  • Questions are raised about the relationship between the uncertainty principle and entanglement, with some participants suggesting both are rooted in the superposition principle of quantum mechanics.
  • Coherence within a single particle is discussed, with a focus on the phase relationship of waves associated with the particle.
  • Second order interference is described as being related to the average product of the electric field, while two-photon interference is referred to as fourth order interference, depending on the product of intensities.
  • It is noted that weakly entangled pairs of photons can exhibit partial coherence in both one-photon and two-photon contexts, but cannot exhibit strong coherence of both types simultaneously.
  • One participant suggests that the concept of complementarity may relate to a fundamental aspect of nature, drawing parallels to other pairs of complementary variables like time and energy, or position and momentum.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the relationships between entanglement, coherence, and interference, with some points of agreement on the nature of entanglement and its implications for coherence. However, the discussion remains unresolved on the precise definitions and implications of complementarity.

Contextual Notes

Some statements rely on specific interpretations of quantum mechanics, and there are unresolved questions regarding the definitions of coherence, interference orders, and the implications of entanglement on measurement outcomes.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying quantum mechanics, particularly in the areas of entanglement and interference phenomena, as well as researchers exploring foundational concepts in quantum theory.

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I am trying to integrate the following concepts and don't fully understand it:

entanglement, interference, complimentary (two photon vs one photon), uncertainty principle

Perhaps a faq could be made

Below are a set of question and statements please answer/modify/correct where required.

1. Entangled particles don't have single particle interference
however
2. Entangled particles can interfere with each other

3. One photon and two-photon interference is complimentary

as you increase the degree of entanglement, the degree of single particle interference decreases4. In other words, if you have two entangled particles A & B

then the more coherent A is with itself, the less coherent (and hence less entangled) A is with B

5. Entangled particles are always coherent with each other (A is in coherence with B)

6. how does uncertainty principle relate with entanglement?

7. What does coherence within a single particle/photon mean? does it mean the waves (from the photon) that are traveling the various paths --- are all in phase?

8. Single photon interference is known as 2nd order interference (as long as it's entangled with another photon (?))

9. Two- photon (also known as entangled photon) interference is called - forth order interference.

10. In layman terms, roughly speaking:

if you are entangled...

you cannot be self-coherent, but you are coherent wrt the other photon

if you are not entangled...

its possible to be self-coherent (and hence have self-interference)
and
also coherent with some other particle/photon
but then, you are not entangled
 
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San K said:
I am trying to integrate the following concepts and don't fully understand it:

entanglement, interference, complimentary (two photon vs one photon), uncertainty principle

Perhaps a faq could be made

Below are a set of question and statements please answer/modify/correct where required.

1. Entangled particles don't have single particle interference
however
2. Entangled particles can interfere with each other

3. One photon and two-photon interference is complimentary

as you increase the degree of entanglement, the degree of single particle interference decreases


4. In other words, if you have two entangled particles A & B

then the more coherent A is with itself, the less coherent (and hence less entangled) A is with B

5. Entangled particles are always coherent with each other (A is in coherence with B)

6. how does uncertainty principle relate with entanglement?

7. What does coherence within a single particle/photon mean? does it mean the waves (from the photon) that are traveling the various paths --- are all in phase?

8. Single photon interference is known as 2nd order interference (as long as it's entangled with another photon (?))

9. Two- photon (also known as entangled photon) interference is called - forth order interference.

10. In layman terms, roughly speaking:

if you are entangled...

you cannot be self-coherent, but you are coherent wrt the other photon

if you are not entangled...

its possible to be self-coherent (and hence have self-interference)
and
also coherent with some other particle/photon
but then, you are not entangled

1.) Perfectly entangled particles exhibit no single particle interference. Partially entangled particles can exhibit partial single particle interference (partial coherence).

2.) Entangled particles can indeed interfere with each other. A nice example of this in Hong-Ou-Mandel interference in pairs of entangled photons.

3.) One and two-photon interference does exhibit a tradeoff, where a larger amount of entanglement means a smaller amount of single particle interference. I'm not sure what calling it complementarity really means, though.

4.) Yes, the more coherent the state of A is, the less it can be entangled with another particle B. This is known as the monogamy of entanglement. If A were a perfectly coherent pure state, it could not be entangled with anything else because it could not even be correlated with anything else.

5.) I'm not sure what this question is asking. If A and B are entangled, you can perform quantum interference experiments that would yield results that unentangled pairs can not provide.

6.) The uncertainty principle and entanglement are both rooted in the foundations of quantum mechanics, in particular, in the superposition principle. The superposition principle says that the proper representation of the state of a quantum system is as a sum over basis states, like components of a vector in a particular coordinate system. The uncertainty principle comes from the fact that there's no basis in which all of the observables of a system are well-defined. Quantum entanglement comes from extending the superposition principle to pairs or groups of quantum systems.

7.) Theoretically, one can speak about the coherence in the state of a single system, like the coherence in waves in general. If a set of waves are coherent, they have a fixed phase relationship with one another. Experimentally, we never measure only a single particle, we measure many particles in order to figure out the probability distributions of what we are trying to measure.

8.) Second order interference (coherence) is called such because it is second order in the electric field; it is related to the average product of the electric field in two different locations and/or times.

9.) Two photon interference is called fourth order interference because it depends on the product of intensities, or on the fourth power of the electric field at different locations and times. I would recommend looking at Rodney Loudon's "The Quantum theory of light" for a more detailed description.

10.) It is possible to be partially entangled. weakly entangled pairs of photons can exhibit partial one-photon coherence and partial two-photon coherence. They cannot exhibit strong coherences of both types, though.
 
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well answered, thanks jfizzix.

jfizzix said:
10.) It is possible to be partially entangled. weakly entangled pairs of photons can exhibit partial one-photon coherence and partial two-photon coherence. They cannot exhibit strong coherences of both types, though.

this is what I meant by complementarity, in 3) above.

like time & energy
position & momentum etc.

could all the complementarities boil down to some single fundamental fact of nature?

jfizzix said:
6.) The uncertainty principle and entanglement are both rooted in the foundations of quantum mechanics, in particular, in the superposition principle. The superposition principle says that the proper representation of the state of a quantum system is as a sum over basis states, like components of a vector in a particular coordinate system. The uncertainty principle comes from the fact that there's no basis in which all of the observables of a system are well-defined. Quantum entanglement comes from extending the superposition principle to pairs or groups of quantum systems.

Well said!
 
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In this sense, I expect complementarity arises again from the fact that there is no basis in which all measurements have well-defined outcomes.

I jumped at this question because I do research into entanglement as a PhD student.
 
jfizzix said:
In this sense, I expect complementarity arises again from the fact that there is no basis in which all measurements have well-defined outcomes.
Agreed.

jfizzix said:
I jumped at this question because I do research into entanglement as a PhD student.
Good. Look forward to more interactions on this forum.
 
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