Clarifying the Superposition Principle

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The discussion centers on the superposition principle in quantum mechanics, particularly regarding the interpretation of wave functions and their relation to probability distributions. Participants explore concepts of measurement, repeated observations, and the nature of wave functions in quantum systems.

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  • One participant seeks clarification on whether different wave functions (ψ₁, ψ₂) represent distinct probability distributions or if they contribute to a single probability distribution.
  • Another participant explains that the wave function is a distribution of probability amplitudes, with the modulus squared yielding a probability distribution, suggesting interference in superposition.
  • There is uncertainty about the interpretation of ψ₁ and ψ₂, specifically whether they describe different distributions or if their squares represent probabilities at specific positions.
  • A participant asserts that each wave function is valid and that a normalized linear combination of them is also valid, drawing an analogy to the superposition of electric fields.
  • Questions arise regarding how coefficients in the superposition are determined, with one participant suggesting that they are confirmed through repeated experiments.
  • Several participants express a need for further reading and understanding, indicating that the topic requires time to grasp fully.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and interpretation of the superposition principle and wave functions, indicating that multiple competing views remain. There is no consensus on the specific nature of wave functions and their probability distributions.

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Participants note the need for further exploration of advanced materials to deepen their understanding, suggesting that the discussion is limited by their current knowledge and the complexity of quantum mechanics.

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Individuals interested in quantum mechanics, particularly those seeking to understand the superposition principle and the interpretation of wave functions.

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Clarifying the Superposition Principle: Writing |ψ⟩ as a Linear Combination of Possible States.
Hi everyone,
I’m currently learning quantum mechanics and trying to wrap my head around superposition, measurement, and how repeated observations work. Here’s how I understand it—please let me know if I’m on the right track or if there’s anything I might be missing!


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I’m trying to understand how different wave functions (ψ) like ##ψ_1## and ##ψ_2## in above picture, relate to probabilities in a quantum system.

Do different ψ's (like ψ₁, ψ₂, in above picture) represent entirely distinct probability distributions? For example, does ψ₁ predict a high probability of finding the particle at position x=2, while ψ₂ predicts it at x=3?
Or ...
Is there a single probability distribution described by one ψ, where ψ(x₁), ψ(x₂), etc., give the probabilities for different positions (x₁, x₂, ...) within that same distribution?
In other words, is each ψ its own 'probability rule' for the system?
 
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The wave function itself is a distribution of probability amplitudes. The modulus squared gives a probability distribution.

That's why a superposition of wavefunction involves interference between the wavefunctions.
 
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PeroK said:
The wave function itself is a distribution of probability amplitudes. The modulus squared gives a probability distribution.

That's why a superposition of wavefunction involves interference between the wavefunctions.
I still don't fully understand what ##\psi_1 (\vec r,t)## and ##\psi_2(\vec r,t)## represent. Do they describe different distributions across the entire domain, or does their square represent the probability of finding the particle at a specific position ##\vec r##?
 
MatinSAR said:
I still don't fully understand what ##\psi_1 (\vec r,t)## and ##\psi_2(\vec r,t)## represent. Do they describe different distributions across the entire domain, or does their square represent the probability of finding the particle at a specific position ##\vec r##?
Each is a valid wavefunction. And a normalised linear combination of the two is a valid wavefunction.

Are you familiar with the superposition of electric fields? It's the same idea.

There's nothing mathematically radical about quantum superposition.
 
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PeroK said:
Each is a valid wavefunction. And a normalised linear combination of the two is a valid wavefunction.

Are you familiar with the superposition of electric fields? It's the same idea.

There's nothing mathematically radical about quantum superposition.
So my first understanding in post #1 was correct.
MatinSAR said:
Do different ψ's (like ψ₁, ψ₂, in above picture) represent entirely distinct probability distributions? For example, does ψ₁ predict a high probability of finding the particle at position x=2, while ψ₂ predicts it at x=3?
In this context how the coefficients determined? By repeating same experiment many times?
PeroK said:
Are you familiar with the superposition of electric fields? It's the same idea.
Not sure But I will check my books.
 
MatinSAR said:
In this context how the coefficients determined? By repeating same experiment many times?
Yes. In terms of experimentally confirming a given procedure produces a given superposition of wavefunctions.
 
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PeroK said:
Yes. In terms of experimentally confirming a given procedure produces a given superposition of wavefunctions.
Thank you for your help @PeroK
Comparing the textbook content with these ideas requires more time.
 
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MatinSAR said:
Thank you for your help @PeroK
Comparing the textbook content with these ideas requires more time.

Indeed.

In QM, one builds up understanding over time by reading more advanced material. Eventually, you should read Ballentine—QM: A Modern Development. Don't worry at first; the nuanced understanding will come with time.

Thanks
Bill
 
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bhobba said:
Indeed.

In QM, one builds up understanding over time by reading more advanced material. Eventually, you should read Ballentine—QM: A Modern Development. Don't worry at first; the nuanced understanding will come with time.

Thanks
Bill
Appreciate the tip! I’ll definitely check out Ballentine once I’ve leveled up a bit more.

Thanks for the reassurance!
 
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