Is This Picture Really About the CNO Cycle?

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The discussion clarifies that the image in question does not accurately represent the CNO cycle, which primarily involves the conversion of hydrogen to helium through a series of steps involving carbon, nitrogen, and oxygen. The CNO cycle produces helium rather than consuming it, and while neon can appear in some variations at high temperatures, it is not central to the basic cycle. Participants suggest that the image may instead depict the alpha process or the triple alpha process, which involves carbon and helium reactions leading to oxygen and neon. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly identifying these nuclear processes in astrophysics. Accurate representation of stellar fusion processes is crucial for understanding stellar evolution.
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Dear PF Forum,
StellarNucleoSynthesis1.JPG

Is this picture correct?
Or it is not CNO Cycle?
I get that video from this
Thanks for any answer
 
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The CNO cycle involves nitrogen rather than neon.
 
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Vagn said:
The CNO cycle involves nitrogen rather than neon.
Yep, I think it makes more sense.

Carbon -> Nitrogen -> Oxygen
12 -> 14 -> 16
But I've seen it twice if not three times on youtube on diferent videos.
So perhaps what they actually mean is alpha process?
Carbon + He4 -> Oxygen
Oxygen + He4 -> Neon?

Thanks

Steven
 
Stephanus said:
Yep, I think it makes more sense.

Carbon -> Nitrogen -> Oxygen
12 -> 14 -> 16
But I've seen it twice if not three times on youtube on diferent videos.
So perhaps what they actually mean is alpha process?
Carbon + He4 -> Oxygen
Oxygen + He4 -> Neon?

Thanks

Steven
The CNO cycle produces 4He, not consumes it. There are intermediate stages involving neon in some variations of the CNO cycles, but these only occur at very high temperatures. The basic cycle is carbon>nitrogen>oxygen>carbon, the full reaction is given on the CNO cycle wiki page.
 
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Stephanus said:
Is this picture correct?
Or it is not CNO Cycle?

That picture is not the CNO cycle, which, as Vagn pointed out, converts hydrogen to helium in a multi-step process.

Stephanus said:
So perhaps what they actually mean is alpha process?
Carbon + He4 -> Oxygen
Oxygen + He4 -> Neon?

Actually I think the picture is referring to the triple alpha process, then the carbon burning process, and then the neon burning process.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple-alpha_process
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon-burning_process
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon-burning_process
 
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