CO2 Laser Beam Folding for 10kw Power Output

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The discussion centers on the complexities of designing a 10 kW CO2 laser, emphasizing the importance of equivalent length in achieving high power output. The formula Length = Power/60 indicates that a total equivalent length of 166 meters is necessary for 10 kW output, which poses significant design challenges. The conversation highlights the necessity of multiple reflections within the laser cavity and the role of gas pressure and voltage in enhancing beam strength. Additionally, safety concerns are raised regarding the construction and operation of such high-powered lasers, classified as Class IV, which require specialized environments and training.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of laser physics, particularly CO2 laser operation
  • Familiarity with laser cavity design and equivalent length calculations
  • Knowledge of Class IV laser safety protocols and regulations
  • Experience with high-voltage electrical systems and gas pressure management
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  • Research advanced CO2 laser cavity design techniques
  • Study the principles of laser beam folding and its impact on power output
  • Explore safety standards and equipment for operating Class IV lasers
  • Investigate laser societies or professional organizations for mentorship opportunities
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Laser engineers, researchers in photonics, and professionals involved in high-power laser applications will benefit from this discussion, particularly those interested in the design and safety of high-output CO2 lasers.

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Why is it that equivalent length is so important for laser beam power output (Length = Power/60) - http://www.laserk.com/newsletters/whiteCO.html. I was reading that in order to get multiple kilowatts of power out of a CO2 laser beam you have to fold the beam a great number of times. Why is this the case? Can you instead make the rear reflector a concave mirror and then put a focusing lense in the apex of the concave mirror in order to boost the beam strength?

I am trying to build a 10kw CO2 laser and want to make sure I am taking everything into account and that I understand why I am doing what I am doing.

In order to get 10kw of power based on the equation above the total equivalent length would be 166 meters and I have a 1 meter long glass tube about 3" in diameter. I suppose I could try to design a single piece multi reflector inside the cavity but 166 times bouncing around would be tough. Is this how they are making 10kw lasers for DOD, etc?

I have gone through the following books -
Svelto O. Principles of Lasers (5ed., Springer, 2009)(ISBN 1441913017)
Milonni P.W., Eberly J.H. Laser Physics (Wiley, 2010)(ISBN 9780470387719)
I am looking for a copy of the following to review soon -
Lasers - Anthony E. Siegman

It seems these texts like to cover a bunch of material but kind of dance around the details required to actually build a high power laser (minimum of 10kw IR beam power).
 
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rppearso said:
I was reading that in order to get multiple kilowatts of power out of a CO2 laser beam you have to fold the beam a great number of times. Why is this the case? Can you instead make the rear reflector a concave mirror and then put a focusing lense in the apex of the concave mirror in order to boost the beam strength?
I'm not an experimentalist, so I may be wrong, but the point is not concentrating the light, it's having more lasing medium.
 
So folding the beam is not so much the issue as is having more pressure (more gas molecules) inside the tube? As well as more voltage?

Do you know if there are any laser societies so that I can seek out a mentor for very very detailed work on laser cavity design so that I can achieve a 10kw laser.
 
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rppearso said:
Do you know if there are any laser societies so that I can seek out a mentor for very very detailed work on laser cavity design so that I can achieve a 10kw laser.

It would -fortunately- be impossible for an amateur to build a 10 kW laser, so the answer is most definitely no.
I suspect part of the problem here is that you might not realize just how powerful such a laser is. We have plenty of lasers where I work but any work that requires a class IV laser can only be used in special labs that can only be accessed by trained users, and only then using special safety equipment (interlocks, goggles etc) .
Class IV is the highest classification of lasers and encompasses any laser with an output power or more than 500 mW. This is already enough to burn your skin and even a reflected beam will make you go blind. You are talking about a laser that would be 20 000 more powerful than this:))
Note that CO2 lasers used to cut sheets of steel usually have an output power of around 200W or so and 3-4 kW CO2 lasers can cut 1/4" sheets of steel at a fast rate. There are very few applications that would require a 10 kW continuous laser (mostly research)
 
rppearso said:
Do you know if there are any laser societies so that I can seek out a mentor for very very detailed work on laser cavity design so that I can achieve a 10kw laser.
I thought you were doing a PhD in the field or something like that.

What you are trying to achieve is too dangerous for us to help you out.

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