Coauthoring papers as an undergrad (as a programmer slave)

[TylerH]

I've been given the opportunity to write programs for two different professors working on separate papers (one math, one physics), and when published they say they will list me as a coauthor. With the first, I sort of resisted a little, because I don't see the amount of work I did as really significant and the code was relatively simple. With the second, I'm not going to resist, because, despite feeling I don't deserve it, I do like being able to say I coauthored a paper.

To be clear, the first was finding max cliques in a graph. The second is numerically approximating some ODEs.

My question is whether others see it the same as I do. I know it's a scam. That is to say, I know they are only listing me as a coauthor to get me to write a program so they can avoid programming. When I brag about it, will others know that it is likely a scam as well?

It really seems to be more a matter of networking, showing interest in helping professors and a small amount of talent. If I had heard of someone doing the same before having been involved in it myself, I would have been a lot more impressed than I would now. I hate to admit it, but I sort of like to impress people. All things considered, would this be more likely to impress someone in academia or make me look like a want to be?

 

[Choppy]

First off, don't "brag" about authoring papers. Generally it's recognized that if you are named as a co-author on a paper as an undergraduate, you probably weren't the driving force behind the paper.

That said, what I usually tell my students about authorship is that if your name goes on the paper, you're accepting responsibility for what goes in it. That means that anyone can come up to you and ask you about it and expect to get a coherent answer. This is very important when networking or during job interviews, for example.

 

[TylerH]

That said, what I usually tell my students about authorship is that if your name goes on the paper, you're accepting responsibility for what goes in it. That means that anyone can come up to you and ask you about it and expect to get a coherent answer. This is very important when networking or during job interviews, for example.

To what extent? I mean, I can say they found some cool way of saying that the max clique of graphs with a certain type of generator is equal to the max clique of a specific subgraph plus some constant. (I know about the generator and how to construct the subgraph, but I don't want to do into details.) But I can't claim to understand how they proved it.

As for the physics one, we'll see. We've only talked about the ODEs involved so far. ODEs alone are relatively simple. I don't know how hard the theory is yet.

 

[Vanadium 50]

Being on a paper if you cannot defend the conclusions is improper. Even if you want to brag.

Offering authorship to someone who cannot defend its conclusions is also improper.

 

[Matrix0]

I would say that coauthoring papers as an undergraduate is a great opportunity and a valuable experience. It shows that you are actively involved in research and have contributed to the scientific community. While it may seem like a small amount of work to you, the fact that the professors have chosen to list you as a coauthor means that they value your contributions and believe that you have made a significant impact on their research.

In terms of others' perceptions, I cannot speak for everyone, but in my experience, coauthoring papers as an undergraduate is viewed positively. It shows that you are motivated and capable of contributing to research at a young age, which is impressive. It also demonstrates your ability to collaborate and work as part of a team, which are important skills in the scientific community.

Regarding your concerns about it being a "scam," I would say that it is not uncommon for professors to collaborate with students on research projects and include them as coauthors. It is a mutually beneficial relationship, as the student gains valuable experience and the professor receives help with their research. As long as you have contributed to the project and have been acknowledged for your work, there is nothing unethical about it.

In terms of networking and impressing others in academia, coauthoring papers as an undergraduate can definitely be a valuable asset. It shows that you are serious about pursuing a career in research and are already making contributions to the field. However, it is important to also focus on developing your own research interests and projects, rather than solely relying on coauthorship opportunities to impress others.

Overall, I would say that coauthoring papers as an undergraduate is a great opportunity and something to be proud of. It shows your dedication and passion for science and can open doors for future research opportunities. Keep up the good work!