Coefficients of a Superposition of State Vectors?

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The discussion revolves around a quantum mechanics problem involving a particle in an infinite square well, specifically focusing on the normalization of a superposition of energy eigenstates. The original poster presents a wavefunction that combines the first and fifth excited states and seeks to determine the appropriate normalization constant.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the normalization condition for the wavefunction and discuss the implications of complex coefficients. There are questions about the correct interpretation of terms and signs in the wavefunction expansion. The original poster attempts to clarify the normalization process and the relationship between the coefficients and their magnitudes.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning each other's reasoning, and providing insights into the normalization process. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of complex coefficients, and there is an acknowledgment of the need to ensure the wavefunction is properly normalized.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the definitions of probability and probability density, as well as the need to integrate over a range to find finite probabilities. The discussion also touches on the specific conditions of the infinite square well setup, which may influence the calculations being discussed.

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Homework Statement


(f) At t = 0, a particle of mass m trapped in an infinite square well of width L is in a superposition of the first excited state and the fifth excited state, ψs(x, 0) = A (3φ1(x) − 2iφ5(x)) , where the φn(x) are correctly-normalized energy eigenstates with energies En. Which of the following values of A give a properly normalized wavefunction? ##\frac { 1 }{ \sqrt { 5 } }## ##\frac { i }{ 5 } ## ##\frac { i }{ \sqrt { 13 } }## ##\frac { 1 }{ 13 } ## None of these

Homework Equations


A normalized wave function: ##A^{ 2 }\sum _{ i }{ a^{ * }_i a_i } =1##.

The Attempt at a Solution


Since, ##\sum _{ i }{ a^{ * }_{ i }a_{ i } } =9-4=5##, ##A=\frac { 1 }{ \sqrt { 5 } } ##.

Does this look correct?

Thnx,
Chris
 
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That does not look correct:wink:.
The basic definition of linear combination (or superposition) is the sum of all weighted basis states, that means if there is a negative sign in front of a particular term, that sign must belong to the expansion coefficient of that corresponding term.
 
I have a negative sign there. a1*a1=9 because it is real. (-2i)*=2i, so (-2i)*x(2i)=-4 for index 5. I am not sure I follow your concern.

Chris
 
kq6up said:
(-2i)*x(2i)
Shouldn't it be (-2i)*x(-2i) = 4 ?
 
That would be (-2i)*x(-2i)=(2i)x(-2i)=4. Oh, ok. Simple mistake. I should have wrote it out explicitly.

It is now ##A=\frac{1}{\sqrt{13}}## which is not one of the choices. That always makes me feel insecure :D

Chris
 
The coefficient ##A## is in general complex, thus instead of ##A^2## you should write it ##|A|^2##. Among the choices, which will give you ##|A|^2 = \frac{1}{13}##?
 
But it is asking for ##A##, not ##{|A|}^2##. Is it not?

Thanks,
Chris
 
I emailed the prof who wrote this test. Yes, I see that A is in general complex, so i/sqrt(13) would satisfy ##{|A|}^2=\frac{1}{13}##. Man, I am so rusty. A lot of brain sweat for what seemed to be such an easy question at first.

Thanks,
Chris
 
kq6up said:
so i/sqrt(13) would satisfy ##{|A|}^2=\frac{1}{13}##.
Yes that's right.
 
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On part g) of this question:
(g) Given the wavefunction ψs, what is the probability of measuring the energy to be E6 at t = 0? Circle one:

The correct answer would be zero, correct? That is because the coefficient in front of a state vector at level 6 would be zero. It is not included in the original wave function correct?

Thanks,
Chris
 
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Yes the probability should be zero.
 
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This one should be zero too, no? The probability of finding a particle and a particular point would would be infinitesimal. You have to integrate over some range on the axis to have a finite probability.

(h) Given the wavefunction ψs, what is the probability density of finding the particle in the middle of the box at time t = 0?

0 3 9 9 Undetermined

Thanks for helping me. I have no answers to this material, and I want to make sure I have these concepts down solid.

Thanks,
Chris
 
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Are "probability" and "probability density" the same thing?
 
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Good point. Density is per unit length in a 1d scenario. Let me go back and work on it some more.

Chris
 
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I would be taking the derivative of ##|\psi|^2## and evaluating it at L/2, correct? I get zero because there are sine functions in both terms after finding mod squared, and taking the derivative. I am using his version of the infinite square well, where x1=0 and x2=L. See: http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-04-quantum-physics-i-spring-2013/exams/MIT8_04S13_exam1.pdf

My ##|\psi|^2## is: ##|\psi |^{ 2 }=\frac { 1 }{ 13 } \left[ 9\frac { 2 }{ L } { sin }^{ 2 }(\frac { 2\pi }{ L } x)+4\frac { 2 }{ L } { sin }^{ 2 }(\frac { 6\pi }{ L } x) \right] ##

Thanks,
Chris
 
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kq6up said:
I would be taking the derivative of ##|\psi|^2## and evaluating it at L/2, correct? I get zero because there are sine functions in both terms after finding mod squared, and taking the derivative. I am using his version of the infinite square well, where x1=0 and x2=L. See: http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-04-quantum-physics-i-spring-2013/exams/MIT8_04S13_exam1.pdf

My ##|\psi|^2## is: ##|\psi |^{ 2 }=\frac { 1 }{ 13 } \left[ 9\frac { 2 }{ L } { sin }^{ 2 }(\frac { 2\pi }{ L } x)+4\frac { 2 }{ L } { sin }^{ 2 }(\frac { 6\pi }{ L } x) \right] ##

Thanks,
Chris

Never, mind. I don't know why I was thinking of taking the derivative. Mod squared is the probability density. The units are correct for that too. However, this mod square evaluated at x=L/2 should still be zero because the sine functions evaluated at multiples of ##\pi## are equal to zero.

Correct?

Thanks,
Chris
 

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