Cogito ergo sum, however, I dont know you exist, prove to me you exist

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The discussion centers on the philosophical implications of Descartes' statement "Cogito, ergo sum" (I think, therefore I am) and its relation to metaphysical skepticism and solipsism. Participants debate the nature of existence, self-awareness, and the certainty of the external world, concluding that while self-awareness is undeniable, the existence of anything beyond one's own mind cannot be proven with absolute certainty. The conversation highlights the distinction between epistemological arguments, which focus on what can be known, and ontological statements about being.

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Some things that don't have a beginning might have had a beginning but have a found a way to transend it.
 
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I remember a speculation by a neuroscientist. Can’t remember his/her name, but it should brighten your day.

It says that I am just a narrative made from different regions of the brain vying for attention. That would explain, for example, why dreams are unrealistic - in REM sleep only a few areas are active at anyone time. I can fly when none of the regions that know it’s impossible are active during the dream.

If this is true then:
- I am an illusion, assisted by my brain’s shared long-term memory of what ‘I’ did last week, other people recognizing me, the photo on my driving license, etc.
- “I think therefore I am” can only be true for, at most, the duration of a single train of thought – I’m more like a transient interference pattern than the entity I’d like to be.
- Having a soul is physically impossible.

Comforting or what?

'I' quite like it, if only because it cuts through a whole load of metaphysics.
 

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