Coin in water pool, how does coin appear? Optics

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The discussion revolves around the optics of a coin submerged in a water pool with a benzene layer on top. Participants are exploring how the coin appears from above, considering the effects of refraction at the interfaces of the different media.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the actual distance to the coin and its apparent position due to refraction. Questions arise about the implications of the angle of incidence and the necessity of considering multiple rays of light to determine the coin's image location.

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The discussion is active, with participants questioning assumptions about the angle of incidence and the methods for determining the apparent depth of the coin. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider multiple rays for accurate image location.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of light refraction and its impact on perceived depth, with specific reference to the properties of water and benzene. The original poster's assumption about the distance is being critically examined.

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5.A coin is resting on the bottom of a water pool (nwater = 1.33) 1.00m deep. On top of the water floats a layer of benzene (nbenzene = 1.50). which is 20.0cm thick. Looking down perpendicularly, how far beneath the topmost surface does the coin appear.

Since the angle of incidence is zero, can I assume that the distance between the topmost surface with the coin = 120cm?
 
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No need to assume that, it's given.
 
So, the answer should be 120cm ?
 
frozen7 said:
So, the answer should be 120cm ?
No. 120 cm is the actual distance between the top surface and the coin. The apparent distance between the surface and the coin's image is something else. To find that, consider refraction at the surfaces for slightly off-axis light.
 
Doc Al said:
To find that, consider refraction at the surfaces for slightly off-axis light.

What does it mean? Is it consider the incident angle does not equal to zero? If so, why? Since the question mention the angle of incidence is zero.
 
It takes more than one "ray" to locate an image. Consider the coin as a point source of light. Figure out how the rays of light bend as they refract from the surfaces. To find the apparent depth, trace back the rays to find the location of the coin's image. (If you only consider the ray with angle of incidence exactly = 0, you won't get far since that ray doesn't get refracted.)
 
Sorry, I can't get what you mean.
 
If you think about it, one ray doesn't tell you anything about the coins position. For example, if I have a ray of light going to the right, it could be coming from one meter away, one kilometer away, one lightyear away, and you wouldn't be able to tell from the direction. But when two rays cross, then there is only one point were those rays could have both come from.
 

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