Collision of Clay Balls: Solving for Velocity and Direction

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The problem involves a collision between two clay balls of different masses and velocities, specifically a 20g ball traveling east at 3.0 m/s and a 30g ball traveling north at 2.0 m/s. The goal is to determine the speed and direction of the resulting combined mass of 50g.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of momentum conservation in both the east-west and north-south directions, questioning how to apply vector components to the problem. There is also a focus on the correct trigonometric functions to use for resolving components.

Discussion Status

Participants have made progress in calculating the x and y components of velocity for the resulting clay ball. Some have confirmed their calculations for these components, while others are exploring methods to find the overall velocity and direction, including the use of the Pythagorean theorem.

Contextual Notes

There is some uncertainty regarding the correct application of trigonometric functions for resolving the components of velocity, as well as the overall approach to finding the resultant speed and direction from the calculated components.

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Homework Statement



A 20g ball of clay traveling east of 3.0m/s collides with a 30g ball of clay traveling north at 2.0m/s. What are the speed and the direction of the resulting 50g ball of clay?

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For most of the other problems in this homework, I've been using m1v1 = m2v2 to find whatever the question asked. I tried using that equation to find v2, but it wasn't right.
 
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You need to use vectors here...

split it up into 2 parts... the north/south directions... and east/west directions...

try to get the north/south velocity of the 50g clay... then the east/west...

so each part is treated just like the regular one dimensional collisions...
 
When you say "vectors" do you mean components? The y-component (north-south) would be vcos(theta)...I think. I can't remember if it's cos or sin.
 
aligass2004 said:
When you say "vectors" do you mean components? The y-component (north-south) would be vcos(theta)...I think. I can't remember if it's cos or sin.

Just call the x-component of the 50g clay... vx. and vy for the north/south part...

so let's start with the east - west direction.

initial momentum in the east-west direction = final momentum in the east-west direction.
 
Momentum = mv. So (mi)(vi) = (mf)(vf)?
 
aligass2004 said:
Momentum = mv. So (mi)(vi) = (mf)(vf)?

Yes exactly... what do you get for vx?
 
Ok, so Vx = (.02)(3)/(.05) = 1.2
 
aligass2004 said:
Ok, so Vx = (.02)(3)/(.05) = 1.2

exactly. do the same type of thing to get Vy.
 
Vy = (.03)(2)/(.05) = 1.2 also.
 
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aligass2004 said:
Vy = (.03)(2)/(.05) = 1.2 also.

cool. so now you have vx, vy... you can get the speed and direction...
 
  • #11
I know the direction is 45 degree NE. I tried finding the velocity by using Vx = vcos(theta) and by checking my answer with Vy = vsin(theta). I got .589, but it was wrong.
 
  • #12
aligass2004 said:
I know the direction is 45 degree NE. I tried finding the velocity by using Vx = vcos(theta) and by checking my answer with Vy = vsin(theta). I got .589, but it was wrong.

1.2 = v*sin(45)

solve for v.

you can also use pythogorean theorem with vx and vy.
 
  • #13
Right. I got 1.697 as the velocity.
 
  • #14
aligass2004 said:
Right. I got 1.697 as the velocity.

yup. that's it.
 

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