Combinination of two lenses, converging and diverging

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The discussion focuses on solving a problem involving a converging lens with a focal length of 15 cm and a diverging lens with an unknown focal length, separated by 30 cm. An object is placed 19 cm in front of the converging lens, resulting in a virtual image formed 12 cm before the diverging lens. The key equations used include the lens formula 1/f = 1/p + 1/q for both lenses. The correct approach involves accurately determining the image distance from the first lens and using it to find the focal length of the diverging lens.

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Homework Statement


A converging lens and a diverging lens, separated by a distance of 30 cm, are used in combination. The converging lens has a focal length of 15 cm. The diverging lens is of unknown focal length. An object is placed 19 cm in front of the converging lens; the final image is virtual and is formed 12 cm before the diverging lens. What is the focal length of the diverging lens?


Homework Equations


I know for sure I'm suppose to use the equations:
1/f1 = 1/p1 + 1/q1
1/f2 = 1/p2 + 1/q2
p2 = s - q1

The Attempt at a Solution


Here's what I tried to do. I understand that I'm suppose to do one lens at a time:
1/q1 = 1/f1 - 1/p1 = 1/15cm - 1/19cm = 71.25cm
p2 = s - q1 = 30cm - 71.25cm = -41.25cm
f2 = 1/q2 + 1/p2 = 16.923cm

I tried changing signs of each number part, but I'm still not getting the right answer.:frown: I tried reading class notes and textbook and I still can't figure out what I did wrong, or if there's something I'm missing

There's another similar problem to this I'm having difficulty with (which adds height), but I think I'll understand that too once I get this.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. :)
 
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"p2 = s - q1 = 30cm - 71.25cm = -41.25cm"

I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to do here.

I think you've found q1 properly. I would now use the location of the image from the first lens, find out where that is in relation to the second lens. This will give you some information that you can put into your first equation again and this time solve for f2. Try that approach. Be careful with your signs.
 

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