Coming up with the critical density formula

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The discussion focuses on deriving the critical density formula for a galaxy with mass m at a distance r from the center of a sphere containing total mass M. The participant attempts to balance kinetic energy, represented by 1/2 mv^2, with gravitational energy, using the equation 1/2(M-m)v^2 = GMm/r. The correct approach involves using the total mass M for the kinetic energy calculation and ensuring proper algebraic manipulation. The derived expression for density is density = GMm/2∏r^6H0^2, but further refinement and correct application of variables are necessary to reach the critical density.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Hubble's Law (v = H0r)
  • Familiarity with gravitational potential energy (GMm/r)
  • Knowledge of kinetic energy formula (1/2 mv^2)
  • Basic algebra and manipulation of equations
NEXT STEPS
  • Review gravitational potential energy calculations in astrophysics
  • Study the derivation of critical density in cosmology
  • Learn about the implications of Hubble's Law on galaxy dynamics
  • Practice algebraic manipulation of physical equations for clarity
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Astronomy students, astrophysicists, and anyone interested in understanding the dynamics of galaxies and the derivation of critical density in cosmological contexts.

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Homework Statement


"Imagine a galaxy with mass m at a distance r away from the center of a sphere, within
which a total mass M reside. As viewed by an observer in the center,
the galaxy appears to be receding according to the Hubble's law, v = H0r. To heuristically derive the critical density m0, we associate a kinetic energy to the galaxy's Hubble
ow, symbolically,1/2 mv^2, and balance this against its gravitational energy. If the density in the sphere is equal to the critical density, the total binding energy (kinetic plus gravitational) is zero. Show that this yields the following expression for the critical density."

Homework Equations


What am I doing wrong in my process to find the critical density formula based on the given information?

The Attempt at a Solution


My logic is:
1/2(M-m)v^2 = GMm/r
So using v = H0r and the volume of a sphere, I plug density(volume of sphere) into M-m, and H0r into v.
after doing this, my solution looks like this.
density = GMm/2∏r^6H0^2
I can't figure out the next step.
 
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makosheva7 said:

Homework Statement


"Imagine a galaxy with mass m at a distance r away from the center of a sphere, within
which a total mass M reside. As viewed by an observer in the center,
the galaxy appears to be receding according to the Hubble's law, v = H0r. To heuristically derive the critical density m0, we associate a kinetic energy to the galaxy's Hubble
ow, symbolically,1/2 mv^2, and balance this against its gravitational energy. If the density in the sphere is equal to the critical density, the total binding energy (kinetic plus gravitational) is zero. Show that this yields the following expression for the critical density."


Homework Equations


What am I doing wrong in my process to find the critical density formula based on the given information?


The Attempt at a Solution


My logic is:
1/2(M-m)v^2 = GMm/r
So using v = H0r and the volume of a sphere, I plug density(volume of sphere) into M-m, and H0r into v.
after doing this, my solution looks like this.
density = GMm/2∏r^6H0^2
I can't figure out the next step.

For one thing the kinetic energy of the galaxy is mv^2/2. I don't know why you are using (M-m). For another I would plug density(volume of sphere) into M. After that you really need to straighten up your algebra. Show you you got what you got.
 

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