The average density of halo of non-baryonic dark matter?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the average density of a spherical halo of non-baryonic dark matter surrounding the galaxy, with given mass and radius values. The subject area is cosmology, specifically focusing on dark matter properties.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between mass, volume, and density, with some questioning the original poster's reworking of the gravitational equation. There are discussions about the definition of density and its calculation in the context of the problem.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing clarifications about the definition of density and emphasizing the need to focus on the specific region of the galaxy rather than general cosmic averages. There is no explicit consensus yet, but some guidance has been offered regarding the approach to the problem.

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Participants note the importance of using the specific mass and volume related to the galaxy's halo, rather than relying on broader cosmic averages. There is also mention of the original poster's unfamiliarity with the mathematical concepts involved.

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I've got a homework question that I'm particularly stuck on:

Suppose that the halo, assumed spherical, of non-baryonic dark matter surrounding our galaxy has mass ~ 5 x10^12 M solar and radius 0.1 Mpc. What it its average density in Kg m-3?

I think that I need to use the formula M= r v^2/ G

G being the gravitational constant.

What I'm really unsure of is how to rework the formula?

I'm assuming that the average density will be the volume?

I've come up with v= M(r)/G and then square the answer

Am I anywhere close?

Thanks in advance!
 
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1st: I have no idea how you got from the first eq to the second.
2nd: Homework questions have a special place in the homework forum.
3rd: Average density ##\neq## volume
 
BiGyElLoWhAt said:
1st: I have no idea how you got from the first eq to the second.
2nd: Homework questions have a special place in the homework forum.
3rd: Average density ##\neq## volume

Sorry I'm very new to this site. I did look in the homework forum but I could not find a cosmology homework thread.
Also I'm a mature student and I haven't done this level of mathematics in years so I'm trying to re-learn as I go. The second equation was my best effort to re-work the first. :(
 
Ok, so what is density? Let's start there.
 
LavaLynne said:
I did look in the homework forum but I could not find a cosmology homework thread.

I've moved this thread to Advanced Physics Homework, which is appropriate for cosmology questions.

LavaLynne, please fill out the homework template to help facilitate helper's responses:

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BiGyElLoWhAt said:
Ok, so what is density? Let's start there.

Sorry I'm not sure what the density is as that's what I'm trying to find. I have previously found the average density of non-baryonic dark matter in the Universe by dividing it's percentage into the critical density. Should I be using that?
 
BiGyElLoWhAt said:
Ok, so what is density? Let's start there.

Sorry I'm not sure what the density is
PeterDonis said:
I've moved this thread to Advanced Physics Homework, which is appropriate for cosmology questions.

LavaLynne, please fill out the homework template to help facilitate helper's responses:

Homework Statement



Suppose that the halo, assumed spherical, of non-baryonic dark matter surrounding our galaxy has mass ~ 5 x10^12 M solar and radius 0.1 Mpc. What it its average density in Kg m-3?

Homework Equations



M= r v^2/ G

The Attempt at a Solution


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Try (unsuccessfully) to rework the above equation.
 
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LavaLynne said:
I'm not sure what the density is

I think he's asking what the definition of density is.
 
That is, in fact, what I'm asking.
 
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[Mass] density is mass per unit volume.
 
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LavaLynne said:
I have previously found the average density of non-baryonic dark matter in the Universe by dividing it's percentage into the critical density

That would give an average over the entire universe, yes, but the problem is not asking you for that. It's asking you for the average density in a particular region (the halo surrounding our galaxy). Averaging over the entire universe won't help with that; our galaxy is not an "average" region of the universe--it's much denser on average than the universe as a whole, since the universe as a whole includes all the empty space between galaxies.

(If this still isn't clear, consider a simpler example. Suppose someone asked you the average density of the Earth. You wouldn't use the figures for ordinary matter in the entire universe--what percentage that average density is of the critical density--to calculate that. You would use numbers for the Earth itself. Similarly, the problem is asking you to use numbers for our galaxy's halo to calculate the average density of dark matter there.)
 
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So its mass PER (divided by) volume? Whats the mass we're dealing with and what's the volume? You have a radius in megaparsecs. Google can convert that for you.
 

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