Common Household Nuclear Reactions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying common household items or devices that utilize nuclear reactions, particularly in the context of a Rube Goldberg machine. Participants explore various potential sources of nuclear reactions and their feasibility for the intended project.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about incorporating a nuclear reaction into a Rube Goldberg machine without splitting an atom, seeking alternatives to smoke detectors or microwaves.
  • Another participant clarifies that microwaves do not involve nuclear reactions and suggests that items that glow in the dark might be old enough to contain radioactive materials.
  • A suggestion is made to use a small test source and a Geiger counter to create a mechanism that responds to radiation detection.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the relationship between microwaves and nuclear reactions, asking for clarification on what emissions could be detected by a Geiger counter.
  • Another participant mentions the concept of beta radiation in bananas as a potential source for the Geiger counter reading.
  • Granite countertops are proposed as a source of radioactivity, with a link to external information about their radioactivity levels.
  • A participant notes the difficulty in obtaining a Geiger counter and mentions a teacher's suggestion of an easy way to achieve a reaction without revealing details.
  • Some watches are mentioned as containing tritium decay, and the human body is noted to contain radioactive potassium-40, linking back to the banana comment.
  • Participants joke about the idea of combining a smoke detector with a granite countertop, leading to humorous exchanges about the implications.
  • There is a discussion about whether an electron gun in an old CRT TV could be considered a source of beta radiation, with some participants agreeing that it emits electrons similar to beta decay.
  • Concerns are raised about the limited range of electrons emitted from beta decay or CRT tubes, questioning their utility in the Rube Goldberg machine.
  • A participant introduces potassium chloride as a common salt substitute that contains potassium-40, a beta emitter, as a potential source.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of ideas and suggestions regarding potential sources of nuclear reactions, but there is no consensus on a definitive solution or agreement on the feasibility of the proposed methods.

Contextual Notes

Some suggestions depend on the availability of specific items, such as Geiger counters or old CRT TVs, and the discussion includes assumptions about the effectiveness of various radioactive sources in the context of the Rube Goldberg machine.

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I am designing a Rube Goldberg machine and I am trying to incorporate a nuclear reaction. I do not want to split an atom or anything, but I do need something other than a smoke detector or a microwave to use. Is there any household or common object/device that uses a nuclear reaction?

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Microwaves do not use nuclear reactions. The only thing besides a smoke detector may be something that glows in the dark, though probably not anymore - you may need something old.
 
There's nothing household, but you could get a small test source and a Geiger counter, and set up the rube goldberg machine to lift a shielding block out of the way between them. Then somehow use the counter's reading to set up the next machine.
 
Oh thank you! I was always told that a microwave had something to do with nuclear reactions.
For the Geiger counter--what could be emitted from the source to make the needle move.

I am kind of bad at physics, I apologize. lol.
 
Isn't there something to do with beta radiation and bananas?

If so, perhaps the reading from that on a Geiger counter?
 
Granite countertops can have a little radioactivity -- maybe use that:

http://www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/tenorm/granite-countertops.html

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agh, I can't get my hands on a Geiger counter--that would have been perfect too.

My teacher said that there is a very easy way to get a reaction, but she won't tell us what it is... we could use the smoke detector, but we can't get it to go off consistently. We have to have the whole Rube Goldberg machine complete it's task at 60 seconds (no more, no less).
 
tinacoolman17 said:
My teacher said that there is a very easy way to get a reaction, but she won't tell us what it is... we could use the smoke detector, but we can't get it to go off consistently.

I wonder what happens when you set (the right kind of) smoke detector on a granite countertop...
 
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berkeman said:
I wonder what happens when you set (the right kind of) smoke detector on a granite countertop...

It's like crossing the streams...
 
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Drakkith said:
It's like crossing the streams...

Two drunken blokes with soaked shoes?
 
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I feel like splitting an atom would be easier. lol.
 
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JaredJames said:
Two drunken blokes with soaked shoes?

And then every molecule in their bodies exploded at the speed of light.
 
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Drakkith said:
And then every molecule in their bodies exploded at the speed of light.

Was a very good night.

Just out of curiosity (I don't know much about radiation), would an electron gun be considered a source of beta radiation? (I'm thinking of an old CRT TV).
 
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JaredJames said:
Was a very good night.

Just out of curiosity (I don't know much about radiation), would an electron gun be considered a source of beta radiation? (I'm thinking of an old CRT TV).

I would say yes. It emits electrons, just like beta decay does. Not the same mechanism, but both shoot electrons out.
 
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Drakkith said:
I would say yes. It emits electrons, just like beta decay does. Not the same mechanism, but both shoot electrons out.

In which case, if you have one of those TV's, you have a simple source.
 
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JaredJames said:
In which case, if you have one of those TV's, you have a simple source.

Depends on what the OP needs. An electron emitted from beta decay or the tube in a TV wil not travel more than a few inches through air I believe. So I'm not sure how much good it will do.
 
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tinacoolman17 said:
Is there any household or common object/device that uses a nuclear reaction?

:confused:

OK; you asked for it.
Common salt substitute potassium chloride; a fraction of the potassium is Potassium-40 , a beta emitter, around 1 mev.
see here:



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