Common log question (are you done?)

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The discussion revolves around evaluating logarithmic expressions, specifically focusing on the common logarithm (base 10) and its properties. Participants are attempting to clarify the rules and definitions related to logarithms, particularly in the context of the expression log 1000.

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  • Participants are exploring the interpretation of logarithmic expressions without explicitly stated bases and questioning the validity of certain rules. There is a focus on whether to leave the expression in logarithmic form or to evaluate it numerically.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing clarifications about the base of logarithms and the correct interpretation of expressions. Some participants have offered guidance on how to properly denote logarithmic bases, while others express confusion about the notation.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the notation for logarithms and the implications of different bases. Participants are also addressing the need to show work as per the problem's requirements.

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the rule states, log x => log 10^x

the problem said to evaluate / solve and show work. so:

log 1000 = log 10 ^ 1000. I'm I done at that point or do I have to go on and solve it?

log 10^1000 = x
10 ^ x = 1000
x = 3

which one goes? do I leave it as log 10 ^ 100 or because the problem says to evaluate I have to go on and solve and put the x = 3?
 
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Edin_Dzeko said:
the rule states, log x => log 10^x
There is no rule like this. Are you thinking of this one?

x = log(10x)
Edin_Dzeko said:
the problem said to evaluate / solve and show work. so:

log 1000 = log 10 ^ 1000.
You're way off here. log(101000) = 1000, while log 1000 = 3.
Edin_Dzeko said:
I'm I done at that point or do I have to go on and solve it?

log 10^1000 = x
10 ^ x = 1000
x = 3

which one goes? do I leave it as log 10 ^ 100 or because the problem says to evaluate I have to go on and solve and put the x = 3?
 
there is no base written for the log and so the rule is:
If there is no base for the log it is understood to be base 10.

log x = log 10^x that's the rule.

and the problem is log 1000. so log 10 ^1000
 
Edin_Dzeko said:
there is no base written for the log and so the rule is:
If there is no base for the log it is understood to be base 10.

log x = log 10^x that's the rule.

I think you must mean

[tex]\log(x) = log_{10} (x)[/tex]

so

[tex]\log(1000) = log_{10} (1000) = log_{10}(10^3) = 3[/tex]
 
Edin_Dzeko said:
there is no base written for the log and so the rule is:
If there is no base for the log it is understood to be base 10.

log x = log 10^x that's the rule.
What you have written is different from what you mean.

If there is no base given for a log, it is often (not always) understood to mean base 10. In other contexts, log x can mean ln x (i.e., loge x) or log2 x.

What you should write is log x = log10 x.

10^x means 10 raised to the power of x.
Edin_Dzeko said:
and the problem is log 1000. so log 10 ^1000
No. log 1000 = log10 1000. When you write 10^1000, that means 10 raised the the power 1000, which is 1 followed by 1000 zeros.

log 1000 = log 103 = ?
 
Mark44 said:
What you have written is different from what you mean.

If there is no base given for a log, it is often (not always) understood to mean base 10. In other contexts, log x can mean ln x (i.e., loge x) or log2 x.

What you should write is log x = log10 x.

10^x means 10 raised to the power of x.

No. log 1000 = log10 1000. When you write 10^1000, that means 10 raised the the power 1000, which is 1 followed by 1000 zeros.

log 1000 = log 103 = ?

oh okay. sorry guys. the confusion comes from me. i don't know how to do the base correctly. I didn't mean to the 10th power I meant base and the number is in the top left hand. I'm sorry for that mistake. Really glad you understood what I meant. I don't know how to do the base properly. for future references how do you do it? can you show me?

Btw, the poster above you has clarified it so I understand now. Thanks guys.
 
You can make subscripts by typing the tags by hand or by using the advanced menu.
To make them by hand, use [ sub] and [ /sub] tags around the subscript, but without the leading spaces.

For example, log[ sub]10[ /sub] 1000. I have the extra spaces so you can see what the tags look like. The same expression, without the extra spaces, renders as log10. You can do exponents in a similar way using the [ sup] and [ /sup] tags (again, no extra spaces inside the brackets, and the exponent between the two tags.

For example, 10[ sup]3[ /sup] = 1000. Without the extra spaces, this renders as 103 = 1000.

The other way is to use the advanced menu, which appears when you click Go Advanced. The X2 button can be used to make subscripts, and the X2 button can be used to make superscripts (exponents).
 

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