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The discussion revolves around a mathematical exam question regarding ideals in commutative rings. It asserts that for any ideal \(\overline{J}\) of the quotient ring \(A/I\), there exists an ideal \(J\) in \(A\) that contains \(I\) and whose lateral classes correspond to \(\overline{J}\). Participants analyze the proof by constructing an inverse map and demonstrating that it preserves the ideal structure. They confirm that the preimage of \(\overline{J}\) is indeed an ideal of \(A\) and establish a bijection between ideals of \(A\) containing \(I\) and ideals of \(A/I\). The conversation highlights the simplicity and elegance of the proof, showcasing the fundamental properties of ideals in ring theory.
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This is a question I gave in one of my exams. :D

If $I$ is an ideal of the commutative ring $A$ (with unity), then prove that for each ideal $\overline J$ of the quotient ring $A/I$, exists an ideal $J$ of $A$ that contains the ideal $I$ and the lateral classes of $I$ defined by the elements of $J$ are the elements of $\overline J.$
 
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Too easy? Too boring? :D
 
Krizalid said:
This is a question I gave in one of my exams. :D

If $I$ is an ideal of the commutative ring $A$ (with unity), then prove that for each ideal $\overline J$ of the quotient ring $A/I$, exists an ideal $J$ of $A$ that contains the ideal $I$ and the lateral classes of $I$ defined by the elements of $J$ are the elements of $\overline J.$

Krizalid said:
Too easy? Too boring? :D

I didn't even see it. It seems simple. Let me try.

$\pi: A \longrightarrow A / I$?

Is it that simple?
 
Almost...you want the inverse map:

[math]\pi^{-1}:P(A/I) \to P(A)[/math], where [math]P(S)[/math] is the power set of [math]S[/math].

Then given an ideal [math]\overline{J}[/math] of [math]A/I[/math], we have to show that [math]\pi^{-1}(\overline{J})[/math] is an ideal of [math]A[/math] containing [math]I[/math].

Since any ideal [math]\overline{J}[/math] of [math]A/I[/math] contains [math]I = 0 + I[/math], we have that [math]\pi^{-1}(0 + I) = \text{ker}(\pi) = I \subseteq \pi^{-1}(\overline{J})[/math].

Next, we have to show [math]\pi^{-1}(\overline{J})[/math] is an ideal. So let [math]x,y \in \pi^{-1}(\overline{J})[/math]. This means that:

[math]\pi(x),\pi(y) \in \overline{J}[/math], hence [math]\pi(x) - \pi(y) = \pi(x - y) \in \overline{J}[/math]

(since [math]\overline{J}[/math] is an ideal, and [math]\pi[/math] is a ring homomorphism) hence [math]x - y \in \pi^{-1}(\overline{J})[/math].

This shows that [math]\pi^{-1}(\overline{J})[/math] is an additive subgroup of [math]A[/math].

Now let [math]a \in A[/math] be arbitrary, and likewise choose an arbitrary [math]x \in \pi^{-1}(\overline{J})[/math].

We want to show that [math] ax \in \pi^{-1}(\overline{J})[/math].

But: [math]\pi(ax) = \pi(a)\pi(x)[/math] and [math]\pi(x) \in \overline{J}[/math], so since [math]\pi(a) \in \pi(A) = A/I[/math], and [math]\overline{J}[/math] is an ideal of [math]A/I[/math],

[math]\pi(ax) \in \overline{J}[/math], thus [math]ax \in \pi^{-1}(\overline{J})[/math].

Since [math]A[/math] is commutative, this suffices to show that [math]\pi^{-1}(\overline{J})[/math] is an ideal of [math]A[/math].

Next, we want to show that this map, restricted to the ideals of [math]A/I[/math], is injective. So let [math]\overline{J},\overline{K}[/math] be two ideals of [math]A/I[/math],

such that [math]J = \pi^{-1}(\overline{J}) = \pi^{-1}(\overline{K})[/math].

Then [math]\overline{J} = \pi(\pi^{-1}(\overline{J})) = \pi(\pi^{-1}(\overline{K})) = \overline{K}[/math].

Furthermore, if [math]J[/math] is ANY ideal of [math]A[/math] containing [math]I[/math], we have the ideal [math]\pi(J) = J/I[/math] of [math]A/I[/math] with:

[math]J = \pi^{-1}(J/I)[/math] (this is NOT true of sets in general, and only holds in this case because

[math]\pi[/math] is a surjective ring homomorphsm).

This establishes a bijection between ideals of [math]A[/math] containing [math]I[/math] and ideals of [math]A/I[/math]:

[math]J \leftrightarrow \overline{J} = J/I[/math]
 
Deveno, I admire your divine ( ;) ) patience! I'm very lazy with latex (and in general...).
 
Here is a little puzzle from the book 100 Geometric Games by Pierre Berloquin. The side of a small square is one meter long and the side of a larger square one and a half meters long. One vertex of the large square is at the center of the small square. The side of the large square cuts two sides of the small square into one- third parts and two-thirds parts. What is the area where the squares overlap?

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