ehrenfest Messages 2,001 Reaction score 1 Thread starter Feb 3, 2008 #1 Homework Statement Please confirm that the center of a group always contains the commutator subgroup. I am pretty sure its true. Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution
Homework Statement Please confirm that the center of a group always contains the commutator subgroup. I am pretty sure its true. Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution
StatusX Homework Helper Messages 2,570 Reaction score 2 Feb 3, 2008 #2 It's not. That would imply commutators commute, which there's no good reason to expect, and it should be easy to find a counterexample.
It's not. That would imply commutators commute, which there's no good reason to expect, and it should be easy to find a counterexample.
ehrenfest Messages 2,001 Reaction score 1 Feb 4, 2008 #3 But my book has a theorem that says: "If N is a normal subgroup of G, then G/N is abelian if and only if C is contained in N" where C is the commutator subgroup. Clearly the center is normal and its quotient group is abelian!
But my book has a theorem that says: "If N is a normal subgroup of G, then G/N is abelian if and only if C is contained in N" where C is the commutator subgroup. Clearly the center is normal and its quotient group is abelian!
morphism Science Advisor Homework Helper Messages 2,014 Reaction score 4 Feb 4, 2008 #4 G/Z(G) is not necessarily abelian, e.g. Z(A_5) is trivial (since A_5 is simple), whence A_5/Z(A_5) =~ A_5, a non-abelian group.
G/Z(G) is not necessarily abelian, e.g. Z(A_5) is trivial (since A_5 is simple), whence A_5/Z(A_5) =~ A_5, a non-abelian group.