Companies that make an existing product robust

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The discussion revolves around the search for companies that specialize in enhancing the reliability and safety of existing products, particularly in the context of a patent holder seeking to improve their invention. The conversation touches on engineering practices, standards, and the challenges faced by solo inventors in the construction industry.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about companies that can make existing products more reliable and safe, mentioning their own patent that requires improvement.
  • Another participant argues that the question is too general and suggests that any engineering firm in the relevant field could provide advice.
  • Concerns are raised about the validity of the patent if the inventor needs external help for design improvements.
  • A participant emphasizes the difference between having a working prototype and ensuring reliability with reduced failure rates.
  • It is noted that the requirements for product reliability vary significantly across different industries, with specific standards for sectors like construction and consumer electronics.
  • One participant mentions the challenges of being a solo inventor without the resources of professional system integrators, highlighting the importance of small design changes for reliability.
  • There are requests for more information about the patent and prototype, but the inventor cites legal reasons for withholding details.
  • A later reply points out that the patent is a public document and can be accessed through official channels.
  • The original poster expresses gratitude and mentions finding some companies through online searches, sharing a specific example.

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Participants express differing views on the necessity of external help for improving a patent. While some believe that any engineering firm could assist, others question the patent's robustness if external design assistance is required. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach for the inventor.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the variability of international standards across different product categories, which may affect the reliability enhancement process. There is also mention of the unique nature of products in the construction industry, complicating the search for expertise.

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Are there such companies that specialize in making existing products reliable and safe. Thanks.

P.S. I have a patent that I need to improve.
 
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No: that is far too general. It is like asking if there are any companies that specialize in opinions: everybody does it.
Any engineering firm in the field your patent falls into will be able to advise you.
 
It doesn't seem like much of a patent if you need someone else to design the product for you...
 
Mech_Engineer said:
It doesn't seem like much of a patent if you need someone else to design the product for you...

I already hold the patent and I have a working system. You don't seem to have any idea about engineering, there is a difference between having a working prototype and making it reliable with reduced meantime failure.
 
Lot depends on the product. These days there are a lot of international standards products have to meet. They are different for different fields. Eg those for tractors are very different to consumer electronics.

Unless you are very rich your best bet it to find a company that designs similar products and do some sort of licensing deal.
 
CWatters said:
Lot depends on the product. These days there are a lot of international standards products have to meet. They are different for different fields. Eg those for tractors are very different to consumer electronics.

Unless you are very rich your best bet it to find a company that designs similar products and do some sort of licensing deal.
As a solo inventor I don't have the resources and the expertise that professional system integrators have( but typically these companies use off the shelf products for manufacturing and such). Moreover, my patent is related to construction industry, but many of these products are very unique and not produced in large scale, so expertise as such is much less. But yes I am looking for a company for a modest cost to help me make my product more reliable, sometimes small changes in metal type can make a big difference.
 
Let us see the patent and some pictures of your prototype .
 
Nidum said:
Let us see the patent and some pictures of your prototype .

I cannot divulge the information now for legal reasons. But It is in the same class as this one( but mine is much more versatile)



also this machine is inappropriate for many markets.
 
ftr said:
I already hold the patent and I have a working system. You don't seem to have any idea about engineering, there is a difference between having a working prototype and making it reliable with reduced meantime failure.

ftr said:
I cannot divulge the information now for legal reasons. But It is in the same class as this one( but mine is much more versatile)

We can't provide any more help unless you're specific in your needs, but even in that case all I can really do is say you'll need to hire a professional engineer to give you some advice on whether your product can be improved, and in what ways.

Good luck.
 
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You say: "I cannot divulge the information now for legal reasons."; but, be aware, if you already have a patent, that patent is a now public document that can be identified and a copy obtained, with a bit of effort by anyone who is truly interested, by doing an search at the uspto website, and searching with its category and, if you have given your correct initials, using those for a matching with your patent's listed first and last name.
 
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Thanks for all of you. I did find few companies that will help me through google, I just thought somebody here might have come across them.
an example

http://www.3formdesign.com/inventors/
 

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