Comparing fractions with definite integrals

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The discussion centers on comparing two ratios of integrals involving sine functions and polynomial terms: $$\frac{I_{2014}}{I_{2013}}$$ and $$\frac{I_{2012}}{I_{2011}}$$, where $$I_n = \int_0^{\frac{\pi}{2}} x^n \sin^n x \, dx$$. Participants utilized integration by parts and inequalities to derive bounds for these integrals, ultimately concluding that the first ratio is greater. The analysis involved approximations and specific bounds derived from the properties of sine functions over the interval [0, π/2].

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Hello! I found the following problem on AOPS:

Which is larger,

$$\Large \frac{\int_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{2}}x^{2014}\sin^{2014}x\ dx}{\int_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{2}}x^{2013}\sin^{2013}x\ dx}\ \text{or}\ \frac{\int_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{2}}x^{2011}\sin^{2011}x\ dx}{\int_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{2}}x^{2012}\sin^{2012}x\ dx}\ ?$$

I don't really have much idea about the problem. I thought of defining:
$$I_n=\int_0^{\pi/2} x^n\sin^n x\,dx$$
From integration by parts, I got:
$$I_n=\left(\sin^n x \frac{x^{n+1}}{n+1}\right|_0^{\pi/2}-\int_0^{\pi/2} n\sin^{n-1} x \cos x \frac{x^{n+1}}{n+1}\,dx=-\frac{n}{n+1}\int_0^{\pi/2} x^{n+1}\sin^{n+1}x \frac{\cos x}{\sin^2 x}\,dx$$
but this doesn't help in obtaining a relation between $I_n$ and $I_{n-1}$. I am stuck here.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
 
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I don't think that solving the integral will be helpful but I guess you should use approximations. Use the following two inequalities which hold correct on $[0,\pi /2]$

$$\sin(x)\leq x $$

$$\sin(x)\geq \frac{2}{\pi } x$$
 
ZaidAlyafey said:
I don't think that solving the integral will be helpful but I guess you should use approximations. Use the following two inequalities which hold correct on $[0,\pi /2]$

$$\sin(x)\leq x $$

$$\sin(x)\geq \frac{2}{\pi } x$$

Using the inequalities:
$$\frac{2}{\pi}\int_0^{\pi/2} x^{2n}\,dx\leq I_n \leq \int_0^{\pi/2}x^{2n}\,dx$$
$$\Rightarrow \frac{1}{2n+1}\left(\frac{\pi}{2}\right)^{2n} \leq I_n \leq \frac{1}{2n+1}\left(\frac{\pi}{2}\right)^{2n+1}\,\,\,(*)$$
From above, we can write the bounds for $I_{n+1}$ i.e
$$\frac{1}{2n+3}\left(\frac{\pi}{2}\right)^{2n+2} \leq I_{n+1} \leq \frac{1}{2n+3}\left(\frac{\pi}{2}\right)^{2n+3}$$
$$\Rightarrow (2n+3)\left(\frac{2}{\pi}\right)^{2n+3}\leq \frac{1}{I_{n+1}} \leq (2n+3)\left(\frac{2}{\pi}\right)^{2n+2}\,\,\,\,(**)$$
Using (*) and (**),
$$\frac{2n+3}{2n+1}\left(\frac{2}{\pi}\right)^3 \leq \frac{I_n}{I_{n+1}} \leq \frac{2n+3}{2n+1}\left(\frac{2}{\pi}\right)$$
For $n=2011$,
$$\frac{4025}{4023}\left(\frac{2}{\pi}\right)^3 \leq \frac{I_{2011}}{I_{2012}}\leq \frac{4025}{4023} \left(\frac{2}{\pi}\right) \Rightarrow 0.2581 \leq \frac{I_{2011}}{I_{2012}} \leq 0.6369$$
For $n=2013$
$$\frac{4027}{4029}\left(\frac{\pi}{2}\right) \leq \frac{I_{2014}}{I_{2013}}\leq \frac{4027}{4029} \left(\frac{\pi}{2}\right)^3 \Rightarrow 1.57 \leq \frac{I_{2014}}{I_{2014}}\leq 3.87$$

This shows that the first ratio is greater. Thanks a lot ZaidAlyafey! :)

But I had to use a calculator to find those values, is their a way to do it without using a calculator?
 
You are using that

$$\sin^n(x)\geq \frac{2}{\pi } x^n$$

But I don't think that this inequality holds because

$$\left| \frac{2}{\pi } x^n \right| $$

is not bounded by 1.
 
ZaidAlyafey said:
You are using that

$$\sin^n(x)\geq \frac{2}{\pi } x^n$$

But I don't think that this inequality holds because

$$\left| \frac{2}{\pi } x^n \right| $$

is not bounded by 1.

Do I have to use $\sin^n x \geq \left(\frac{2}{\pi}x\right)^n$? If so, the bounds would be very dirty. (Sweating)
 
Pranav said:
Do I have to use $\sin^n x \geq \left(\frac{2}{\pi}x\right)^n$? If so, the bounds would be very dirty. (Sweating)

I don't think it is the best approach. The problem might be easier than I thought. Compare $I_n$ and $I_{n+1}$ and use that $x\sin x$ is increasing and positive on the interval.
 
Note that

$$\frac{I_n}{I_{n+1}}\leq 1 \leq \frac{I_{n+1}}{I_{n}} $$
 
ZaidAlyafey said:
Note that

$$\frac{I_n}{I_{n+1}}\leq 1 \leq \frac{I_{n+1}}{I_{n}} $$

Sorry for the late reply.

I just noticed that what I wrote in the first post is incorrect. It should be

$$(n+1)I_n=\left(\frac{\pi}{2}\right)^{n+1}-n\int_0^{\pi/2} x^{n+1}\sin^{n+1}x \frac{\cos x}{\sin^2 x}\,dx$$
But I still do not see how you got those bounds. :confused:
 

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