Comparing Maclaurin Series of cos x and sin x

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The discussion revolves around differentiating the Maclaurin series for the functions cos x and sin x. Participants are examining the general and specific terms of these series, expressing uncertainty about their correctness and notation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants present their attempts to express the Maclaurin series for cos x and sin x, questioning the accuracy of their formulations. Some participants raise concerns about notation and the interpretation of terms, particularly regarding factorials and exponents.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the series for cos x and sin x, with some participants suggesting methods for integrating the series. Guidance has been offered on notation and simplification, but no consensus has been reached on the correctness of the original expressions.

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Participants are navigating potential ambiguities in notation, particularly with the use of capital letters for functions and the representation of factorials. There is also a mention of homework constraints that may influence the discussion.

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I have been asked to differentiate cos x and six...the maclaurin series versions...

I have done the general and specific terms as shown below.

Im not sure if these are correct?
thanks

General Terms
cos x = ∑ (-1)n (x^(2n) / (2n)!)

COS x = ∑ (-1)n (x^(2n+1)/ (2n +1) / (2n)!)


sin x = ∑ (-1)n (x^(2n+1) / (2n+1)!)

‘sin x = ∑ (-1)n (((2n+1) x^(2n))/ (2n+1)!)

Specific Terms
sin x = x – (x^3 / 3!) + (x^5 / 5!) – (x^7 / 7!) + (x^9 / 9!) - …
‘sin x = 1 – (3x^2 / 3!) + (5x^4 / 5!) - (7x^6 / 7!) + (9x^8 / 9!) - …

cos x = 1 – (x^2 / 2!) + (x^4 / 4!) – (x^6 / 6!) + (x^8 / 8!) - …
COS x = x – (x^3 / 3 / 2!) + (x^5 / 5 / 4!) – (x^7 / 7 / 6!) + (x^9 / 9 / 8!) - …
thanks
 
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You already posted the same thing else where, learn what the factorial actually means! Then you can simplify yours derivatives and realize what your not realizing right now!
 
jackson_sun said:
I have been asked to differentiate cos x and six...the maclaurin series versions...

I have done the general and specific terms as shown below.

Im not sure if these are correct?
thanks

General Terms
cos x = ∑ (-1)n (x^(2n) / (2n)!)

COS x = ∑ (-1)n (x^(2n+1)/ (2n +1) / (2n)!)

You know to use "^" to indicate exponent of the "x"- use for the exponent on (-1) also: (-1)^n. Obviously "cos x" can't be equal to both of these. Do you mean cos' x? Also A/B/C, at best, ambiguous. Do you mean
((x^(2n+1)/(2n+1))/(2n)! or (x^(2n+1))/((2n+1)/(2n)!)?

Finally, if you are differentiating as you say, you are "going the wrong way"! The derivative of x^n is nx^(n-1), not (1/(n+1)) x^(n+1).


sin x = ∑ (-1)n (x^(2n+1) / (2n+1)!)

‘sin x = ∑ (-1)n (((2n+1) x^(2n))/ (2n+1)!)

Specific Terms
sin x = x – (x^3 / 3!) + (x^5 / 5!) – (x^7 / 7!) + (x^9 / 9!) - …
‘sin x = 1 – (3x^2 / 3!) + (5x^4 / 5!) - (7x^6 / 7!) + (9x^8 / 9!) - …

cos x = 1 – (x^2 / 2!) + (x^4 / 4!) – (x^6 / 6!) + (x^8 / 8!) - …
COS x = x – (x^3 / 3 / 2!) + (x^5 / 5 / 4!) – (x^7 / 7 / 6!) + (x^9 / 9 / 8!) - …
thanks
 
It looks to me the cos x in capitals is the integral of cos x in normal...
 
yeh COS x is the integral of cos x...i meant integral of cos x and derivative of sin x...sorry for the confusion.

I have realized how to simplify 'sin x so that it equals cos x...but i am not sure how to simplify the integral of cos x to equal sin x.

COS x = x – (x^3 / 3 / 2!) + (x^5 / 5 / 4!) – (x^7 / 7 / 6!) + (x^9 / 9 / 8!)
= ?

any idea? and on the subject...what is the notation for the integral of cos x...I have used COS x but this is obviously incorrect.
thanks...
 
Take your second term...if you don't see the arithmetic, don't try this level of math yet, \frac{\frac{x^3}{3}}{2!} =\frac{x^3}{3\cdot2!} = \frac{x^3}{3!}.

I didn't take into account the sign of the integral, but you get what i mean.

To learn how to type the math graphics I am typing, click on the images I make appear. That will tell you what i typed to get that. Or at least say, "Integral of.."...
 
I understand exactly what you have done.
How would it be done for the general terms is my bigger problem
 
jackson_sun said:
I understand exactly what you have done.

Good
How would it be done for the general terms is my bigger problem

\cos x = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} -1^n \frac{x^{2n}}{2n!}

Integrate every term in the sum, with respect to x. In every individual term, n is constant.

So

\int\cos x dx= \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} -1^n \frac{\frac{x^{2n+1}}{2n+1}}{2n!}

(2n+1)2n!=(2n+1)!,

therefore it simplifies to


\int\cos x dx= \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} -1^n \frac{x^{2n+1}}{(2n+1)!}, which is exactly your series for sin x.
 
Just one comment: it would be far better to write
\int\cos x dx= \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (-1)^n \frac{x^{2n+1}}{(2n+1)!}
with parentheses around the -1. I would be inclined to interpret -1n as -(1n) which, of course, would be just -1!
 
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O yes i guess i would too, if someone else wrote that..thanks
 
  • #11
Thanks gents
 
  • #12
No Problem, and welcome to PF
 

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