Completing the square involving square roots

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the mathematical technique of completing the square in the context of deriving the equation for a hyperbola. Participants explore the steps involved in manipulating the equation, particularly focusing on the expression involving square roots.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the method presented on Wolfram Mathworld, suggesting that the step described as "completing the square" is incorrect.
  • Another participant agrees that the method involves squaring both sides of the equation rather than completing the square initially.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that completing the square is necessary at some point in the process, indicating that it may not be entirely avoided.
  • A later reply confirms that they were able to derive the equation by squaring twice after rearranging, without completing the square.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the necessity and correctness of completing the square in the derivation process. Multiple competing views remain on the appropriate method to use.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential confusion over the steps involved in the derivation and the definitions of completing the square versus squaring both sides of an equation. There are unresolved aspects regarding the clarity of the method described on the referenced webpage.

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Hi, I was looking at the derivation of the equation for a hyperbola on Wolfram Mathworld. In one step, the webpage instructs you to "complete the square". It starts with:

[tex]\sqrt{\left(x -c\right)^{2} +y^{2}}-\sqrt{\left(x+c\right)^{2}+y^{2}} = 2a[/tex]

and then says, "rearranging and completing the square gives":

[tex]x^{2}\left(c^{2}-a^{2}\right)-a^{2}y^{2}=a^{2}\left(c^{2}-a^{2}\right)[/tex]

How did he do this? The original page can be found at http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Hyperbola.html and it's equations (3) and (4).
 
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Hi Monsterman222! :smile:

It's wrong :rolleyes:

it's not completing the square, it's just squaring both sides (after rearranging), twice :wink:
 
you do have to complete the square eventually, just do square both sides frist
 
Awesome, thanks! I was able to get it without completing the square, just squaring twice qfter rearranging.
 

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