Complex Analysis - Differentiability

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The discussion revolves around the differentiability of the function f defined by f(z) = 3x²y + y³ - 6y² + i(2y³ + 6y² + 9x). Participants are tasked with showing that this function is nowhere differentiable, exploring the implications of the Cauchy-Riemann equations in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants compute the Cauchy-Riemann equations and discuss the implications of discontinuities in relation to differentiability. There are questions about the nature of solutions to the equations and whether real solutions exist. Some participants express uncertainty about the completeness of their reasoning regarding differentiability across the entire domain.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and questioning each other's interpretations of the Cauchy-Riemann equations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of solutions and the conditions under which differentiability may hold, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of real and complex solutions to the equations derived from the Cauchy-Riemann conditions, as well as the assumptions about the variables x and y being real numbers.

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Homework Statement


Show that the function f defined by [itex]f(z) = 3\,{x}^{2}y+{y}^{3}-6\,{y}^{2}+i \left( 2\,{y}^{3}+6\,{y}^{2}+9\,x<br /> \right)[/itex] is nowhere differentiable.

The Attempt at a Solution



Computing the C.R equations for this, I am left with

[itex]{y}^{2}+2\,y={\it xy}[/itex]

and

[itex]x^2+(y-2)^2 = 1[/itex]

Now from the upper equation we can see that [itex]x={\frac {{y}^{2}+2\,y}{y}}[/itex]

This means that there is a discontinuity at y = 0, and therefore this function is not differentiable?

I somehow don't think is right as it would mean it's only not differentiable at that point, not necessarily everywhere, how would I go about this?
 
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NewtonianAlch said:

Homework Statement


Show that the function f defined by [itex]f(z) = 3\,{x}^{2}y+{y}^{3}-6\,{y}^{2}+i \left( 2\,{y}^{3}+6\,{y}^{2}+9\,x<br /> \right)[/itex] is nowhere differentiable.


The Attempt at a Solution



Computing the C.R equations for this, I am left with

[itex]{y}^{2}+2\,y={\it xy}[/itex]

and

[itex]x^2+(y-2)^2 = 1[/itex]

Now from the upper equation we can see that [itex]x={\frac {{y}^{2}+2\,y}{y}}[/itex]

This means that there is a discontinuity at y = 0, and therefore this function is not differentiable?

I somehow don't think is right as it would mean it's only not differentiable at that point, not necessarily everywhere, how would I go about this?

x and y are real numbers right? So, is there ever a real solution to those two equations? That is can you substitute x=f(y) of one into the other, make a polynomial out of it, then solve for the roots? If those roots are only complex, then the CR equations are never satisfied.
 
[tex]u_y = 3x^2 + 3y^2 - 12y = -9 = -v_x\Rightarrow x^2 + y(y -4) = -3[/tex]

I think part of your CR has a mistake.
 
Dustinsfl said:
[tex]u_y = 3x^2 + 3y^2 - 12y = -9 = -v_x\Rightarrow x^2 + y(y -4) = -3[/tex]

I think part of your CR has a mistake.

I just completed the square, so y(y - 4) becomes (y-2)^2 and the addition of the 4 means the other side of equation becomes 1.
 
jackmell said:
x and y are real numbers right? So, is there ever a real solution to those two equations? That is can you substitute x=f(y) of one into the other, make a polynomial out of it, then solve for the roots? If those roots are only complex, then the CR equations are never satisfied.

Ah yes, I see now. Thanks for that!

I got two sets of complex roots because I solved for two values of y, and when I substituted those, both results were complex. If only one were complex would that mean it's still differentiable but at that point?
 
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It would be differentialbe where ever x and y are real and satisfy the CR equations.
 

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