Complex Integral: Solving a Difficult Problem

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a complex integration problem involving the function \( f(z) = \frac{z^2}{e^{2z}+1} \) over the curve \( C=\{ z \in \mathbb{C} : |z|=2 \} \). Participants explore various methods to evaluate the integral, including Cauchy's theorem and residue calculations, while addressing the presence of poles and the behavior of the function near those points.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in integrating \( f(z) \) due to the double exponential in the denominator and questions whether the function has poles.
  • Another participant asserts that \( f(z) \) has poles and that Cauchy's theorem can be applied, suggesting that the integral is related to the sum of residues at those poles.
  • A later reply provides a formula for calculating residues and encourages applying it to the current problem.
  • There is a discussion about the limit used to find the residue at the pole \( z = \frac{i\pi}{2} \) and the need to factor the denominator appropriately.
  • Participants explore the implications of the function being holomorphic and the conditions under which poles exist, with some confusion about the behavior of the function near these points.
  • One participant acknowledges a misunderstanding regarding the presence of a term in the limit calculation and seeks clarification on the derivation of the denominator in the residue calculation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the function has poles and that Cauchy's theorem is applicable, but there is disagreement and confusion regarding the specific calculations of residues and the behavior of the function near the poles. The discussion remains unresolved as participants continue to clarify and refine their understanding.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the analyticity of \( f(z) \) and the treatment of the poles. Some mathematical steps remain unresolved, particularly in the context of calculating residues and the behavior of the function near its poles.

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Hi all!

I have to perform this complex integration over three curves, the first one is \( C=\{ z \in \mathbb{C} : |z|=2 \} \) and the function to integrate is

$$ f(z)=\frac{z^2}{e^{2z}+1}$$

If I do the usual change of variables \(z=2e^{i\theta} \) and integrate from \( \theta = 0 \rightarrow \theta = 2\pi \) the denominator term is gives me trouble, because of the double exponential.

Another way I was thinking, it was Cauchy's theorem. As \(f(z) \) has no poles then (I'm not sure of this) the sum of all residues is $0$ so the integral is $0$ too. But there are $z \in \mathbb{C}$ such that $e^{2z}+1 = 0 $, given by $z_{n}=\frac{1}{2}i(\pi + 2\pi n), n \in \mathbb{Z}$ and $z_{0}$ is inside $C$ which I think that is no pole, but the function goes to infinity, so it is not analytical there.

Thanks for your time
 
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Ruun said:
Hi all!

I have to perform this complex integration over three curves, the first one is \( C=\{ z \in \mathbb{C} : |z|=2 \} \) and the function to integrate is

$$ f(z)=\frac{z^2}{e^{2z}+1}$$

If I do the usual change of variables \(z=2e^{i\theta} \) and integrate from \( \theta = 0 \rightarrow \theta = 2\pi \) the denominator term is gives me trouble, because of the double exponential.

Another way I was thinking, it was Cauchy's theorem. As \(f(z) \) has no poles then (I'm not sure of this) the sum of all residues is $0$ so the integral is $0$ too. But there are $z \in \mathbb{C}$ such that $e^{2z}+1 = 0 $, given by $z_{n}=\frac{1}{2}i(\pi + 2\pi n), n \in \mathbb{Z}$ and $z_{0}$ is inside $C$ which I think that is no pole, but the function goes to infinity, so it is not analytical there.

Thanks for your time

Those are indeed poles. Cauchy's theorem says that since $C$ bounds a simply connected region where $f$ is meromorphic then $\displaystyle \oint_C f\;dz$ is the sum of the residues at these finitely many points. So, you are correct, $f$ is holomorphic on the interior of $C$ minus $\frac{\pi i}{2}$ and so Cauchy's theorem tells you that $\displaystyle \oint f\;dz=2\pi i\text{Res}(f,\tfrac{1}{2}\pi i)$. So, what is this residue? How can we compute it?
 
Hi, thanks for your reply.

The residue is:

$$\lim_{z\to i\pi/2}\left(z-\frac{i\pi}{2}\right)\frac{z^2}{e^{2z}+1}$$

Now, the "problem" is that I don't know to "factorize" $e^{2z}+1=0$, to cancel with $\left(z-\frac{i\pi}{2}\right)$ I was thinking in circular and hyperbolical functions, but they do not solve my problem as far as I can see:

$$e^{2z}=2(\cosh(z)+\sinh(z))$$

and

$$\cos(iz)=\cosh(z), \sin(iz)=-\sinh(z)$$

we have that

$$\lim_{z\to/2 i\pi}e^{2z}=\lim_{z \to i\pi/2}2(\cosh(z)+\sinh(z))=2(\cosh(i \pi/2 ) + \sinh(i\pi/2))=2(\cos(\pi/2)-\sin(\pi/2))=-2$$

but the factor $(z-i\frac{\pi}{2})$ goes to zero, and it can't go to zero, because there will be no pole afterall at $z=i\frac{\pi}{2}$, given you said that there is a pole.

Thanks for your time
 
Here is a hint for you.

Suppose that $f(z) = \frac{g(z)}{h(z)}$ where $g$ and $h$ are holomorphic functions. Suppose that at $p$ we have that $h(p)=0$ but $g(p)\not = 0$.
Then $f$ will have a pole at point $p$. Suppose further that $h'(p) \not = 0$ then prove that $\text{res}(f,p) = \frac{g(p)}{h'(p)}$.

Do this exercise first then apply this result to your problem!
 
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No, it is indeed a pole because actually $\lim_{z\to i\pi/2}e^{2z}+1 = 0 \neq -1$ as you calculated.

We have: $\sin(i\cdot z) = - \displaystyle\frac{\sinh(z) }{\color{red} i} $

Now as for your residue note that:

$$\lim_{z\to i\pi/2} \left( z - \frac{i\pi}{2} \right) \frac{z^2}{e^{2z}+1} = \lim_{z\to i\pi/2} \left( z - \frac{i\pi}{2} \right) \frac{z^2}{ \left( f\left( \frac{i\pi}{2} \right) + f^\prime\left( \frac{i\pi}{2} \right) \cdot \left( z - \frac{i\pi}{2} \right) + \varepsilon(z) \cdot \left(z - \frac{i\pi}{2}\right) \right) }$$

where $f(z) := e^{2z} + 1$ and $\displaystyle\lim_{z\to i\pi/2} \varepsilon(z) = 0$ because $f$ is complex differentiable there (in fact, it is analytic on $\mathbb{C}$ ).

Thus:

$$\lim_{z\to i\pi/2} \left( z - \frac{i\pi}{2} \right) \frac{z^2}{e^{2z}+1} = \lim_{z\to i\pi/2} \left( z - \frac{i\pi}{2} \right) \frac{z^2}{ f^\prime\left( \frac{i\pi}{2} \right) \cdot \left( z - \frac{i\pi}{2} \right) + \varepsilon(z) \cdot \left(z - \frac{i\pi}{2}\right) } = ...$$ (Wink)
 
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ThePerfectHacker said:
Here is a hint for you.

Suppose that $f(z) = \frac{g(z)}{h(z)}$ where $g$ and $h$ are holomorphic functions. Suppose that at $p$ we have that $h(p)=0$ but $g(p)\not = 0$.
Then $f$ will have a pole at point $p$. Suppose further that $h'(p) \not = 0$ then prove that $\text{res}(f,p) = \frac{g(p)}{h'(p)}$.

Do this exercise first then apply this result to your problem!

Hi, thanks for the hint!

Ok, now I see it, after some google research, that your result for the pole is the same as L'Hôpital's rule

$$\lim_{z\to p}(z-p)\frac{g(z)}{h(z)}=\lim_{z \to p}\frac{g(z)}{\frac{h(z)}{z-p}}=\lim_{z \to p}\frac{g(z)}{\frac{h(z)-h(p)}{z-p}}=\lim_{z \to p}\frac{g(z)}{h'(z)}=\frac{g(p)}{h'(p)}$$

which is not $0$ nor $\infty$ so problem solved after substitution :D

PaulRS said:
No, it is indeed a pole because actually $\lim_{z\to i\pi/2}e^{2z}+1 = 0 \neq -1$ as you calculated.

We have: $\sin(i\cdot z) = - \displaystyle\frac{\sinh(z) }{\color{red} i} $

Now as for your residue note that:

$$\lim_{z\to i\pi/2} \left( z - \frac{i\pi}{2} \right) \frac{z^2}{e^{2z}+1} = \lim_{z\to i\pi/2} \left( z - \frac{i\pi}{2} \right) \frac{z^2}{ \left( f\left( \frac{i\pi}{2} \right) + f^\prime\left( \frac{i\pi}{2} \right) \cdot \left( z - \frac{i\pi}{2} \right) + \varepsilon(z) \cdot \left(z - \frac{i\pi}{2}\right) \right) + 1}$$

where $f(z) := e^{2z} + 1$ and $\displaystyle\lim_{z\to i\pi/2} \varepsilon(z) = 0$ because $f$ is complex differentiable there (in fact, it is analytic on $\mathbb{C}$ ).

Thus:

$$\lim_{z\to i\pi/2} \left( z - \frac{i\pi}{2} \right) \frac{z^2}{e^{2z}+1} = \lim_{z\to i\pi/2} \left( z - \frac{i\pi}{2} \right) \frac{z^2}{ f^\prime\left( \frac{i\pi}{2} \right) \cdot \left( z - \frac{i\pi}{2} \right) + \varepsilon(z) \cdot \left(z - \frac{i\pi}{2}\right) } = ...$$ (Wink)

Hi, thanks for your post, sorry for the huge $\sin(z)$ fail, I try to avoid that kind of silly mistakes but it seems to be some unavoidable part of my math skills...

I'm afraid I fail to see where the denominator comes from, specifically the $\varepsilon(z)$ term. Is the 2nd and higher order derivatives for the complex series of $e^{2z}$?. If so, shouldn't be $(z-i\pi/2)^2$ the third term? Then I wouldn't cancel with the numerator I know but I don't get it. And the $+1$ term? I don't get it too

Thanks for your time :D
 
Ruun said:
I'm afraid I fail to see where the denominator comes from, specifically the $\varepsilon(z)$ term. Is the 2nd and higher order derivatives for the complex series of $e^{2z}$?. If so, shouldn't be $(z-i\pi/2)^2$ the third term? Then I wouldn't cancel with the numerator I know but I don't get it. And the $+1$ term? I don't get it too

Thanks for your time :D

Actually you are right about the $+1$, it shouldn't be there, copy paste typo.

I will put the rest in a different way if you like, we may write: $ \displaystyle\lim_{z\to i\pi/2} \frac{f(z) - f\left(i\pi/2\right)}{z - i\pi/2 } = f^\prime\left(i\pi/2\right)$ $(*)$

In this case $ f\left(i\pi/2\right) = 0$ so $ \displaystyle\lim_{z\to i\pi/2} \frac{f(z)}{z - i\pi/2 } = f^\prime\left(i\pi/2\right)$ and $ \displaystyle\lim_{z\to i\pi/2} \frac{(z - i\pi/2) \cdot z^2}{ f(z) } =\displaystyle\lim_{z\to i\pi/2} \frac{z^2}{ \frac{f(z)}{z - i\pi/2 } } = \frac{\lim_{z\to i\pi/2} z^2}{\lim_{z\to i\pi/2} \frac{f(z)}{z - i\pi/2 } } $ (the last equality holds since both limits are defined and the denominator's limit is not 0).

Note that $(*)$ is indeed equivalent to having $ f(z) = f\left(i\pi/2\right) + f^\prime\left(i\pi/2\right) \cdot (z - i\pi/2 ) + (z - i\pi/2 ) \cdot \varepsilon(z)$ for some function $\varepsilon(z)$ satisfying $ \varepsilon(z) \to 0$ as $ z \to i\pi/2$. This is what being differentiable is all about! (Rofl)
 
Thank you, now I get it! I didn't know the $\varepsilon(z)$ thing, my math training is the one I am being given in my physics undergraduate courses so it's quite mechanical and we don't care too much about math rigor. Such a bad mistake in my opinion, but I'm my spare time, which is not as much as I wanted, I try to reinforce my math training.

So problem solved, thank you! :D
 
To be sure if I understood this, my answer to the first integral is $i\pi^3/4$.

If $c=\{2+e^{i\theta} : \theta \in [0,2\pi] \}$ as the poles are all in the imaginary axis, and $c$ is the circle of radius $1$ and center $2$ it never touches the imaginary axis, therefore no poles inside $c$, so the integral is $0$.

And finally if $c=\{z \in \mathbb{C}: |z-4i|=1\}$ is the circle of radius $1$ and center $4i$ this time there are two poles inside $c$ $z_{1}=i7\pi/2$ and $z_{2}=i9\pi/2$, my result is that the integral is $i65\pi^3/4$
 

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