Complex number equation graph problem

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the equation and coordinates related to a complex number graph problem. Participants explore the relationship between the coordinates (a, b) and the complex number representation, including the implications of inequalities and graphical representations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the coordinates (a, b) correspond to the complex number $z_o = (1,1)$ or $1+i$, while others suggest different values such as $(2, 1.8)$.
  • One participant clarifies that 'a' represents the radius of a circle centered at $z_o$, and questions the value of 'b' based on the graph.
  • Several participants express uncertainty about the correctness of the value of 'b', with one suggesting it could be $0$ based on the inequality $\operatorname{Re}z \ge b$ and the graph's shaded area.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of $\operatorname{Re}(z) = 0$, with one participant questioning how this relates to the graph showing points in the first and fourth quadrants.
  • Another participant presents a combination of inequalities, $|z-(1+i)|>2$ and $\operatorname{Re} z \ge 0$, and notes that it matches the shaded area in the graph.
  • One participant suggests that $z_0$ should be expressed as $1+i$, while acknowledging that this is equivalent to the Cartesian representation $(1,1)$.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the values of (a, b) and the interpretation of the inequalities. The discussion remains unresolved with differing opinions on the correct values and their implications.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the coordinates and the definitions of the inequalities. The discussion also reflects uncertainty about the graphical representation and its relation to the complex number equations.

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Given (a,b) is the coordinate just like (x,y). Find equation Zo and coordinate (a,b) ?Please help me
Thank you in advance.
 
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Is the answer $z_o = (1,1)$ or simply $1+i$ and $(a, b)=(2, 1.8) $ ? Not sure about b though
 
DaalChawal said:
Is the answer $z_o = (1,1)$ or simply $1+i$ and $(a, b)=(2, 1.8) $ ? Not sure about b though
Can you tell me where does (a,b) = ( 2,1.8 ) come from ?
 
first of all $(a, b)$ are not co-ordinates... a represents the radius of circle centered at $z_o$ .
For b see the graph... from the circle we can say z must be outside the circle then it's real part should also be outside it(see the minimum value of Re(z) so that it is outside the circle)
 
I am really struggle with question 2 on how to find (a,b) I am not sure that b = 1.8 is correct or not
 
jaychay said:
I am really struggle with question 2 on how to find (a,b) I am not sure that b = 1.8 is correct or not
We are given the inequality $\operatorname{Re}z\ge b$ and in the graph we can see that the shaded area is to the right of the imaginary axis.
Therefore $b=0$.
 
Klaas van Aarsen said:
We are given the inequality $\operatorname{Re}z\ge b$ and in the graph we can see that the shaded area is to the right of the imaginary axis.
Therefore $b=0$.
So ( a,b ) is equal to ( 2,0 ) right ?
 
jaychay said:
So ( a,b ) is equal to ( 2,0 ) right ?
Yes.
 
Klaas van Aarsen said:
We are given the inequality $\operatorname{Re}z\ge b$ and in the graph we can see that the shaded area is to the right of the imaginary axis.
Therefore $b=0$.
Sir you are saying that Re(z) = 0 that means z =0 + i y means z will lie on imazinary axis but from the graph z lies in 1st and 4th quadrants except inside the circle. How is this possible?
 
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Klaas van Aarsen said:
Yes.
On question one Zo is equal to (1,1) right ?
 
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DaalChawal said:
Sir you are saying that Re(z) = 0 that means z =0 + i y means z will lie on imazinary axis but from the graph z lies in 1st and 4th quadrants except inside the circle. How is this possible?
We don't have $\operatorname{Re}(z)=0$ for the shaded area. Instead we have $\operatorname{Re}(z)\ge 0$.

[DESMOS]{"version":7,"graph":{"viewport":{"xmin":-10,"ymin":-6.756756756756757,"xmax":10,"ymax":6.756756756756757}},"randomSeed":"fb6b112a792f74beca093fcec90d2a8f","expressions":{"list":[{"type":"expression","id":"1","color":"#c74440","latex":"x\\ge0"},{"type":"expression","id":"3","color":"#388c46"}]}}[/DESMOS]
 
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The combination of $|z-(1+i)|>2$ and $\operatorname{Re} z\ge 0$ shows up as:

[DESMOS]{"version":7,"graph":{"viewport":{"xmin":-10,"ymin":-6.756756756756757,"xmax":10,"ymax":6.756756756756757}},"randomSeed":"5dafa6730d6be2f3a851403cb787a49a","expressions":{"list":[{"type":"expression","id":"1","color":"#c74440","latex":"\\left(x-1\\right)^{2}+\\left(y-1\\right)^{2}>2^{2}\\left\\{x\\ge0\\right\\}"},{"type":"expression","id":"2","color":"#2d70b3"},{"type":"expression","id":"3","color":"#388c46"}]}}[/DESMOS]

As we can see, this matches the shaded area in the opening post.
 
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jaychay said:
On question one Zo is equal to (1,1) right ?
I'd make it $z_0=1+i$, since $z_0$ is an imaginary number.
To be fair, that is equivalent to $(1,1)$, which is the cartesian representation of the same imaginary number.
 

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