Complex wavefunctions and probability

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of complex wavefunctions in quantum mechanics and their relationship to probability functions. Participants explore the mathematical implications of complex numbers in wavefunctions and their interpretations in the context of quantum mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Tim expresses confusion regarding the relationship between complex wavefunctions and probability functions, questioning how a complex output can correspond to a real probability value.
  • Tim argues that for a complex wavefunction of the form x + iy, the square would yield a non-real result unless y equals zero, suggesting that complex wavefunctions cannot represent probabilities.
  • A participant corrects Tim by stating that the absolute square of the wavefunction must be considered, implying that this is the relevant quantity for probabilities.
  • Tim acknowledges the clarification regarding absolute squares and expresses gratitude for additional resources that may aid in understanding quantum mechanics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion shows initial confusion from Tim regarding complex wavefunctions, but a later reply provides clarification. However, the broader implications and interpretations of complex wavefunctions remain open for further exploration, indicating that not all aspects are fully resolved.

Contextual Notes

Tim's understanding of the relationship between complex wavefunctions and probabilities is limited by a lack of knowledge about absolute squares, which may affect his interpretation of quantum mechanics.

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Hi Everyone

I am a bit confused about something. I have been taught that wavefunctions are basicaly the square root of probability functions. I have also read that some wavefunctions are complex which means that they involve the value i which is the square root of minus one. These two things together do not make sense to me for the following reason:

The way I see it, the output value of a probability function can only be a real number between zero and one inclusive with zero representing "impossible" and one representing "certain". If the output value of a complex wavefunction is x + iy then the square of this is x2 + ixy - y2. For this to equal any real number between zero and one inclusive (or any other positive real number), y must be equal to zero which means that the wavefunction cannot not be complex.

What exactly do complex wavefunctions represent if not the square root of probability functions? Do complex wavefunctions represent anything meaningful and fully comprehendable in the "real" world that we perceive?

Thank you very much.

Kind regards

Tim
 
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tim1608 said:
If the output value of a complex wavefunction is x + iy then the square of this is x2 + ixy - y2.
You have to take the absolute square.

tim1608 said:
What exactly do complex wavefunctions represent if not the square root of probability functions? Do complex wavefunctions represent anything meaningful and fully comprehendable in the "real" world that we perceive?
Maybe this is helpful to you: http://www.scottaaronson.com/democritus/lec9.html
 
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Hi Kith

Thank you very much for your reply. It now makes complete sense to me. I did not know about absolute squares beforehand.

Thank you also very much for the Scott Aaronson link. I have only read a bit of the article so far but once I have read it all, I think it might help me to understand QM.

Kind regards

Tim
 
You're welcome ;-)
 

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