Compression ratio and volume reduction of CO2

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The discussion revolves around estimating the volume reduction in annual CO2 emissions resulting from a 10% increase in the compression ratio of car engines, specifically from 10 to 11. The context involves 30 million cars, each consuming one cubic meter of fuel annually, and participants are exploring the implications of this change on CO2 emissions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants are attempting to calculate the amount of CO2 produced per vehicle based on the fuel consumption and the change in compression ratio. Some are questioning how the efficiency of the engine affects fuel consumption and CO2 emissions, while others are exploring the relationship between compression ratio and emission volume.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations of the problem being explored. Some participants are providing calculations and reasoning, while others are questioning the assumptions made in the problem statement regarding fuel consumption and emissions. There is no explicit consensus yet, but several productive lines of inquiry are being pursued.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted ambiguity in the problem regarding whether the annual fuel consumption remains constant despite changes in engine efficiency, leading to differing interpretations of how this affects CO2 emissions.

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Homework Statement
If the compression ratio of car engines is increased by 10% (from 10 to 11), estimate the volume reduction in annual CO2 emission. Assume there are 30 million cars each consuming one cubic meter of fuel annually.
Relevant Equations
##η=1-r^(1-γ)## where ##γ=1.4##
##r=V_1/V_2##
The question is: If the compression ratio of car engines is increased by 10% (from 10 to 11), estimate the volume reduction in annual CO2 emission. Assume there are 30 million cars each consuming one cubic meter of fuel annually.

The question is looking for a rough estimate for an answer.

I have some basic ideas but can't quite put them together:

1. Assuming one cubic meter of fuel, that would be around 900kg of carbon giving 75000 moles. At a volume of approximately 20 litres (0.02 cubic meters) per mole, this would be 1500 cubic meters of ##CO_2## per vehicle.

2. I think the question would also involve working out the percentage difference in ##CO_2## volume by approximating the difference in environmental pressure and temperature..

I'd appreciate any help. Not quite sure how to work through this.
 
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Initial thought:

Is this a simple case of comparing efficiencies to find how much fuel each car consumes given the change in ##r##?

$$η_1 = 1 - 10^-0.4 = 0.60189$$

For ##r=11##:

$$η_2 = 1 - 11^-0.4 = 0.61678$$

This means each car consumes a factor of approx. 0.975 cubic meters of fuel given the higher compression ratio. Giving 1460 cubic meters of ##CO_2## annually compared 1500 originally. This seems too basic to be correct??
 
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Any help?
 
Would still appreciate any pointers on how to get started...
 
Wow.. looks like this one's got everyone stumped!
 
One issue with the question is they say the cars consume the same amount of fuel annually no matter the engine efficiency. Would that not mean that the same amount of CO2 is given off?
 
berkeman said:
One issue with the question is they say the cars consume the same amount of fuel annually no matter the engine efficiency
Gee I read the description that each car uses a cubic meter before the compression increase, and so slightly less after.
So (to the OP) figure how much less carbon is emitted per car and miltiply by 30 million.
 
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berkeman said:
One issue with the question is they say the cars consume the same amount of fuel annually no matter the engine efficiency. Would that not mean that the same amount of CO2 is given off?
Hmm. My thought was (given the wording of the question) that the emission volume would be compression ratio dependent in some fashion. So, while the same volume of fuel is consumed, this would nonetheless reduce the emission quantity.
 
You are overthinking this. Efficiency =mileage.
 
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hutchphd said:
You are overthinking this. Efficiency =mileage.

How does the efficiency of the vehicle relate to how much CO2 it produces? And therefore, how does the change in η relate to the change in volume of CO2 emission?
 
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It uses less fuel to perform the same daily functions.
Any other interpretation of the problem statement is foolishness.
 
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The volume emission at STP (or any other specified TP) will be proportional to the fuel used, assuming complete combustion.
 
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Thank you gentlemen. This was along the lines of my original solution but seemed far too simple an answer. Perhaps Covid has simply made question setters more compassionate.
 
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