Compton Scattering- finding photon wavelength

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a collision between an electron and a photon, specifically focusing on the Compton scattering effect. The original poster seeks to determine the wavelength of the incoming photon given the velocities of the electron before and after the collision.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply conservation of momentum and energy to derive expressions involving the wavelengths of the incoming and outgoing photons. Some participants question whether total momentum is the only conserved quantity in the system, while others suggest that energy conservation should also be considered.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the conservation laws relevant to the problem. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the expressions for energy and momentum, and some guidance has been offered regarding the accuracy of energy expressions.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of the problem, including the relationships between the initial and final wavelengths and the implications of conservation laws. There is an indication that the original poster may be constrained by the need to express the problem in terms of the unknown wavelengths.

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Homework Statement


An electron moving to the left at 0.8c collides with an incoming photon moving to the right. After the collision, the electron is moving to the right at 0.6c and an outgoing photon moves to the left. What was the wavelength of the incoming photon?

Homework Equations


p=γmv
Eγ=pc=h/λ

λ'-λ = (h/mec)(1-cosθ)

The Attempt at a Solution


*Defining left as positive*
I have the following expressions for the initial and final momentum of the system, and I set them equal to each other.

Pinitial= pe + pγ
Pi = -γimevei + Eγi/c
Pf = γfmevef - Ef/c

given Ei/c = h/λ

h/λ - γimevei = γfmevef - h/λ'

h(1/λ + 1/λ') = γfmevef + γimevei

I can plug in all the values for the electron and get some number, but I am still left with λ and λ'. I'm not sure if my approach is correct, but if it is, I don't see how I can find just λ (the initial wavelength).
 
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Is the total momentum the only quantity that is conserved?
 
Chandra Prayaga said:
Is the total momentum the only quantity that is conserved?
I presume energy would also be conserved, but writing out that expression also leaves me with λ and λ'

imevi2)/2 +mec2 - hc/λ = hc/λ' - (γfmevf2)/2 - mec2
 
Your expression for the energy of the electron is wrong
 
Would E= √(p2c2 + m02c4) be more accurate?
 
That is correct
 

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