Concentration of an original solution

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The discussion revolves around a homework problem involving the calculation of the concentration of iodide ions in a solution after a reaction between sulfuric acid and lead(II) iodide, leading to the formation of lead(II) sulfate precipitate. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and conceptual clarification related to stoichiometry and solution concentration.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines their approach using limiting reagents and assumes 100% yield to calculate the moles of lead(II) sulfate produced.
  • The same participant derives the molarity of lead(II) iodide from the moles of lead(II) sulfate recovered, leading to a calculated concentration of iodide ions.
  • Another participant suggests that the original solution concentration can be inferred directly from the calculations without needing to account for the volume of sulfuric acid added.
  • A later reply indicates that the sulfuric acid information could be relevant if solubility products were to be considered in the calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relevance of the sulfuric acid volume in the final concentration calculations. There is no consensus on whether the sulfuric acid information is necessary for the solution's concentration determination.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not resolve the implications of including or excluding the volume of sulfuric acid in the total volume for concentration calculations. The discussion reflects uncertainty regarding the necessity of considering solubility products in this context.

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Homework Statement


When 38 mL of 0.1250 M H2SO4 (sulfuric acid) is added to 100 mL of solution of PbI2 (Lead(II) Iodide) a precipitate of PbSO4 forms. The PbSO4 (Lead(II) Sulfate) is then filtered from the solution, dried, and weighed. If the recovered PbSO4 is found to have a mass of 0.0471 g, what was the concentration of iodide ions in the original solution?


Homework Equations


So I started with an equation: H2SO4 + PbI2 = PbSO4 + 2HI; Molarity(M)= Moles of solute/moles of solution


The Attempt at a Solution


I treated this problem like a limiting reagent. I assumed that the amount recovered was 100% yield (Perfect world. I know haha)

If Sulfuric acid was the limiting reagent, then the amount of moles of Lead(II) Sulfate would be 1.44 grams; which is 0.00475 moles of Lead(II) Sulfate. So that means sulfuric acid is in excess and the Lead(II) Iodide was the limiting reagent. To figure out the Molarity of the PbI2 I worked backwards from moles of PbSO4 recovered: 0.1L "X" = 1.553X10-4 moles. This gave me 1.553X10-3 M PbI2. Then, I changed this from M of PbI[/sup]2[/sub] to M of Iodine: (1.553X10-3 M PbI2) (2mol I/ 1mol PbI2) = 3.11X10-3 M I. To get moles of I, I multiplied by 0.1 L PbI2 solution, and I got 3.11X10-4 moles I. finally, I divided that by Liters of beginning solution which was 100mL + 38mL: (3.11X10-4 moles I)/(.138L) = 0.00225 M of Iodine.

Are my steps correct? I know this was a kind of a long process, but if you could please give me feedback that would be much appreciated!
 
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apbuiii said:
To figure out the Molarity of the PbI2 I worked backwards from moles of PbSO4 recovered: 0.1L "X" = 1.553X10-4 moles. This gave me 1.553X10-3 M PbI2. Then, I changed this from M of PbI[/sup]2[/sub] to M of Iodine: (1.553X10-3 M PbI2) (2mol I/ 1mol PbI2) = 3.11X10-3 M I.

I have not checked numbers, but seems to me like here you already have your answer. Original solution was the one before acid was added.

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Okay, I see. So I don't have to add the 38mL of Sulfuric acid for the liters of solution. I kind of thought so. I guess the information about Sulfuric acid was superfluous...
 
Well, it would be useful if you were expected to calculate concentration taking solubility products into account.

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