Conceptual question on velocity (double-checking my own work)

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The problem involves analyzing the relative motion of a package falling to the ground as observed by an immobile person and a pilot flying horizontally. The context centers around understanding the relationship between the velocities involved, specifically how the pilot perceives the package's motion.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of the pilot's horizontal flight and the package's vertical fall, considering vector addition and the geometry of the situation. Questions arise regarding the correct interpretation of the velocities and their representation in a diagram.

Discussion Status

The discussion has evolved with participants refining their understanding of the problem. Some have offered guidance on visualizing the scenario as a right triangle, while others have reconsidered their initial thoughts based on diagrammatic representations. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the different velocities.

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Participants note challenges related to recalling geometric and physical concepts after a significant time away from the subjects, which may influence their reasoning and confidence in the discussion.

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Homework Statement



1: An immobile person sees a package falling to the ground. It appears to be falling (a) at an angle, and (b) at speed V1.

2: A pilot flying horizontally at constant speed sees the same package. It appears to be (a) falling vertically, and (b) at speed V2.

The question is: What's the speed of the pilot relative to the ground?

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The Attempt at a Solution



If the pilot is flying horizontally and sees the package falling straight down, it would suggest to me that his own horizontal velocity matches that of the package. I attempted to sketch this out, and it strongly resembles a vector addition problem where the magnitude would be equal to sqrt(x^2 + y^2), which leads me to believe that the correct answer would be sqrt(v1^2 + v2^2) (C, below).

I'm not 100% on this, though, since I seem to be having a hard time visualizing this beyond that.

This is a multiple-choice question:

A. v1 + v2
B. sqrt(v1^2 - v2^2)
C. sqrt(v1^2 + v2^2)
D. v2 - v1
E. v1 - v2

Am I going about this the proper way / am I right on this one, or am I a bit... off?
 
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exi said:
If the pilot is flying horizontally and sees the package falling straight down, it would suggest to me that his own horizontal velocity matches that of the package.
Exactly.

But I suspect your diagram is a bit off. It should resemble a right triangle. Which side equals V1? Which side equals V2? Which side is the speed of the plane?
 
I take my answer back. After looking at my little drawing again, it's just a simple Pythagorean question.

If this is drawn out as a series of velocities, V2 would be one side (vertical to the ground), whereas V1 would be the hypotenuse, leaving the third side (parallel to the ground) equal to V3, which is what I'm after.

So, if a^2 + b^2 = c^2, then:

V2^2 + V3^2 = V1^2

V3^2 = V1^2 - V2^2

V3 = sqrt(V1^2 - V2^2)

Am I thinking about this correctly?
 
Now you've got it.
 
Thanks for the mental jogging. Having not seen geometry, trig/algebra, or physics since early 2003, I'm a little slow on some of this these days. :redface:
 

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