Condensed Matter/Quantum Info -OR- High-Energy

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The discussion revolves around the decision-making process for choosing between two fields of study for PhD studies: Condensed Matter/Quantum Information science and High-Energy Particle physics. Participants explore the implications of each choice, including potential career paths, personal interests, and the perceived prestige of the fields.

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  • Career-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a preference for Condensed Matter/Quantum Information (CM/QI) due to perceived opportunities for making progress compared to High-Energy Particle physics (HEP), which they view as slower in terms of advancements.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of considering future employment opportunities when choosing between the two fields, suggesting that job prospects may vary significantly based on the choice.
  • A participant mentions that parts of condensed matter research share similarities with HEP, referencing Xiao-Gang Wen's work on string-net liquids.
  • One contributor notes that many graduates from their cohort in both quantum information and HEP struggled to find positions in science after their PhDs, while those in condensed matter found opportunities in industry, such as at Intel.
  • Another participant highlights the diversity within condensed matter theory, pointing out that it encompasses both applied and fundamental research, including topics like topological insulators and the AdS-CFT correspondence.
  • A later reply mentions the growing interest from high-energy physicists in condensed matter topics, indicating a potential overlap between the fields.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions about the merits and challenges of each field, indicating that there is no consensus on which path is superior. The discussion reflects a mix of personal preferences, career considerations, and academic interests.

Contextual Notes

Some participants acknowledge the uncertainty surrounding job prospects in both fields, and there are varying views on the nature of research in condensed matter compared to high-energy physics, with no definitive conclusions drawn.

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I will be starting PhD studies in the fall, but first I must decide which school I will attend. I am basing this on what field I want to go into. The choices are Condensed Matter/Quantum Information science or High-Energy Particle physics. I am having a little bit of difficulty deciding. I am very interested in both. I feel like CM/QI is the better choice, because there is more room for making real progress compared to HEP, where the nature of the field makes for slow progress. I definitely find the field to be very interesting. On the other hand, HEP is a little more amazing in certain ways. Although perhaps I shouldn't, I see CM/QI as a little "lesser" than the foundational work going on in HEP. I mean, particle physics seems like the elite field to be in. On the other hand, I think I stand more of a chance for happiness and success in CM/QI because of its higher relative accessibility. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!
 
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I would really consider your future employment opportunities when making this decision, above anything else. You'll probably be happy choosing either one if you apply yourself, but you may be stuck without a job after you finish depending on which you choose.
 
Thank you. That's kind of what I was thinking.
 
I don't feel like I have enough experience to answer your question straight-out (I am merely a grad student myself), but just to let you know that there are parts of condensed matter which are similar in spirit to HEP: look up Xiao-Gang Wen's work on string-net liquids.
 
Wow. That is an awesome concept. I am so glad you introduced this to me! Thank you!
 
Welcome, glad you like it! :)
 
In my cohort, neither the quantum information people nor the HEP people were able to continue in science post-phd/postdoc.

Many of the condensed matter phds were able to find work at Intel and the like.
 
I think while some areas of condensed matter theory can appear to be a lot more applied, the field itself is very diverse in these terms ranging from areas which directly relate to the properties of real materials to topics which are very exotic and almost as fundamental as string theory. This is actually what attracts me to it, as I have been fortunate enough to be exposed to much of the recent work on topological insulators as an undergraduate.
The new areas which seem to be really growing based on what several well respected professors have told me are topological phases in interacting/disordered systems and the use of the AdS-CFT correspondence to develop models for strongly correlated systems. I actually went to a talk recently by one of Xiao-Gan Wen's students, Michael Levin, which was about topologically protected edge states in the absence of symmetry. Very exotic work, but incredibly interesting. I think people in high energy are also starting to get interested in these sorts of topics. I have seen a lot of the high energy faculty attending condensed matter colloquia at my institution.
 

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