Conditions for Cubic Equation to Represent Curve

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The discussion centers on determining the conditions for the cubic equation y = (x+5)(ax^2 + bx - 2) to represent a specific curve. Key findings include the requirement that a > 0 and the discriminant condition b^2 + 8a > 0, which ensures three intersections with the x-axis. Additionally, the conditions for stationary points are derived, leading to the inequality b^2 - 5ab + 25a^2 + 6a > 0. These conditions collectively define the parameters a and b necessary for the cubic equation to accurately represent the desired curve.

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Homework Statement


2) Given a cubic equation y = (x+5)(ax^2 + bx - 2). Give conditions on a and b for the equation to represent the following curve. The curve is attached to the email.
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/8246/question2o.png

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The Attempt at a Solution


I know that a>0.
Since there are 3 intersections with the x-axis, then for (ax^2 + bx - 2), b^2 - 4ac > 0.
b^2 - 4(a)(-2) > 0
b^2 + 8a > 0
b^2 > -8a

If i differentiate it, I get
3ax^2 + 2bx + 10ax + 5b - 2
Since there are 2 stationary points,
B^2 - 4ac = (2b + 10a)^2 - 4(3a)(5b-2) > 0
b^2 - 5ab + 25a^2 + 6a > 0
and I'm stucked again.
Which approach is correct?

Thanks.
 
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elitewarr said:

Homework Statement


2) Given a cubic equation y = (x+5)(ax^2 + bx - 2). Give conditions on a and b for the equation to represent the following curve. The curve is attached to the email.
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/8246/question2o.png

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


I know that a>0.
Since there are 3 intersections with the x-axis, then for (ax^2 + bx - 2), b^2 - 4ac > 0.
b^2 - 4(a)(-2) > 0
b^2 + 8a > 0
b^2 > -8a
It seems to me that you are just about finished here. As you already said, a > 0, which you can tell from the behavior of the graph for very negative or very positive x.

The inequality b2 > -8a is true for all real b, as long as a > 0. You were finding conditions on the discriminant so that there would be two real, distinct roots. If the discriminant had been equal to zero, there would have been a repeated root.
elitewarr said:
If i differentiate it, I get
3ax^2 + 2bx + 10ax + 5b - 2
Since there are 2 stationary points,
B^2 - 4ac = (2b + 10a)^2 - 4(3a)(5b-2) > 0
b^2 - 5ab + 25a^2 + 6a > 0
and I'm stucked again.
Which approach is correct?

Thanks.
 
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eh.. Why did I never thought of that?? Thank you! Haha.
 

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