Configuring the restoring force for a pendulum equation

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The discussion revolves around understanding the approximation used in the equation for the restoring force of a pendulum, specifically the assumption that sinθ ≈ θ for small angles. Participants explore the validity of this approximation and its implications in the context of pendulum motion.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the approximation of sinθ to θ for small angles, questioning how this assumption is derived and its accuracy. Some provide numerical examples to illustrate the approximation's validity, while others reflect on their own misunderstandings regarding the calculations involved.

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The discussion has seen participants sharing insights and clarifications regarding the small angle approximation. Some have confirmed the approximation's validity through calculations, while others have acknowledged their initial confusion and corrected their understanding. There is an ongoing exploration of the mathematical basis behind the approximation.

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Participants mention the use of radians and degrees in their calculations, indicating potential confusion stemming from unit conversions. The discussion also touches on the Taylor series expansion as a method to understand the approximation further.

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Homework Statement



In order to configure the equation for the restoring force of a pendulum, my physics book uses this equation:
sinθ ≈ θ when the angle is less than π/10 (or about 20 degrees.) I've tried to figure this out on my calculator, but cannot figure out how they make this assumption.

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The above equation is then put into Fr = (w)(sinθ) to create this equation:
Fr = (w)θ

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Nothing, I have used radians and degrees to try to figure out how they get this equation, but I cannot. Thanks so much for your help!
 
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π/10 ≈ .314 radians
sin(.314) ≈ .309

Seems pretty close to me. And it gets better for smaller angles.
 
Well, trying out some rad values at Wolfram Alpha gives me the following results:

[itex]sin(\pi /20)\approx 0,156[/itex] when
[itex]\pi/20 \approx 0,157[/itex]

so I guess it is a valid approximation, at least it holds up to 2 decimals in this case.edit: You got me Doc Al!
 
Okay, now I understand. I was figuring the problem wrong, I was doing sin(π/10) instead of π/10 and then putting that answer into the sine. Thank you so much!
 
If you do a taylor series expansion of the sine function the second order term is proportional to the angle cubed. If the angle is in radians the term becomes insignificant for small angles.

Google "Taylor series" or "Small angle approximation" for more information :).
 

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