Confirming the Nomenclature of C(triplebond)C-CH2-CH3

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The discussion revolves around the nomenclature of organic compounds, specifically focusing on the naming of butyne and hexene. Participants explore whether butyne can be referred to as 1-butyne and the conventions for naming alkenes and alkynes, including the placement of double and triple bonds in molecular structures.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that C(triplebond)C-CH2-CH3 can be called butyne, while others argue it should be specifically referred to as 1-butyne to avoid ambiguity.
  • One participant notes that the name butyne is ambiguous because it could refer to either 1-butyne or 2-butyne, which are distinct molecules.
  • There is a discussion about the naming convention for hexene, with some participants asserting that hexene typically implies 1-hexene unless specified otherwise.
  • Another participant mentions that while it is a convention to only number bonds over 1, this practice is not universally accepted, suggesting that using 1- in names can prevent ambiguity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of specifying the position of the triple bond in butyne and the conventions for naming alkenes. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best practices for nomenclature.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the acceptance of naming conventions, as some participants highlight that not all chemists may agree on the necessity of specifying the position of bonds in compound names.

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This is a question which i just want to make sure of..

C(triplebond)C-CH2-CH3

so this would be called butyne
but can it also be called 1-butyne
 
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H-C(triplebond)C-CH2-CH3

is 1-butyne. The name butyne is ambiguous because it could refer to 1-butyne or 2-butyne (see below), which are different molecules.

CH3-C(triplebond)C-CH3
 
alright suppose i was given hexene and i was told to draw it, i would assume the double bond is at 1, right
 
jeahomgrajan said:
alright suppose i was given hexene and i was told to draw it, i would assume the double bond is at 1, right

Yes Right, hexene means 1-hexene and the double bond either on the right or on the left of the structure { C(d.bond)CH2...etc) or (CH3...etc...C(d.bond) }
Only numbers over 1 are given to determine the location of the double and the triple bonds.
 
thanks
 
Silex7 said:
Only numbers over 1 are given to determine the location of the double and the triple bonds.

That's only a convention, and not a widely spread one. Whenever there is a risk of ambiguity, go for 1-somethingene, as it is much cheaper to add 1- each time on paper then to use incorrent reagent once.
 

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