Confused by Example 26: n=9, How Does k=0?

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The discussion revolves around a mathematical problem related to a geometric series and convergence tests in calculus. Participants are examining the specifics of Example 26, particularly the interpretation of the variable n and its relationship to the summation index k.

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  • Participants are questioning why n is set to 9 instead of 10 in the context of the summation, exploring the implications of the starting index k. There are also inquiries about the appropriate convergence tests to apply to different series, with some expressing confusion over the complexity of the tests used.

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Some participants have provided insights into the transformation of the summation index and the nature of geometric series. Others are exploring various tests for convergence but have not reached a consensus on the best approach to take for the second problem.

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There is mention of the divergence test and L'Hôpital's rule, indicating that participants are working within the constraints of calculus homework guidelines. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the definitions and application of series and limits.

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For example 26, I don't see how (for the 1st part) n=9. In the definition of the summing of them it says n is the number above SIGMA, so why not 10? Is it to do with n=1, which isn't k=0 from the definition?
 
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Also,

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9089/cantix9.jpg

I did the 1st, which diverged by the divergence test.

But the 2nd, I tried the ratio test, but it got far 2 complicated too early on. Which test do I use? I tried them all, what am I doing wrong?
 
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Firepanda said:
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3928/idontgetkm1.jpg

For example 26, I don't see how (for the 1st part) n=9. In the definition of the summing of them it says n is the number above SIGMA, so why not 10? Is it to do with n=1, which isn't k=0 from the definition?
Yes, the formula given for a geometric series starts with k= 0. The example given
\sum_{k= 1}^10 \frac{2}{3^n}
starts with k= 1. The simplest way to handle that is to factor 1/3 out of the product:
\sum_{k=1}^{10}\frac{2}{3} \frac{1}{3^{k-1}}
Now, let j= k-1. Then k= 1 becomes j= 1-1= 0 and k= 10 becomes j= j= 10-1= 9. Of course, 3^{k-1} becomes 3^j. The sum is now
\sum_{j= 0}^9 \frac{2}{3}\frac{1}{3^j}[/itex]<br /> That is a geometric series with A= 2/3, r= 1/3, and n= 9.
 
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Firepanda said:
Also,

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9089/cantix9.jpg

I did the 1st, which diverged by the divergence test.

But the 2nd, I tried the ratio test, but it got far 2 complicated too early on. Which test do I use? I tried them all, what am I doing wrong?

For that one,
\lim_{x\rightarrow 0}\frac{e^x- x- 1}{sin^2(x)}[/itex]<br /> since both numerator and denominator go to 0 I would use L&#039;Hopital&#039;s rule (twice). And, again, you <b>don&#039;t</b> need to find the limit itself!
 
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