Confusing System of Masses Question

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The problem involves two wooden blocks with different masses and coefficients of friction, where the goal is to determine the maximum horizontal force that can be applied to the lower block without causing the upper block to slip. The subject area includes concepts of static and kinetic friction.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the forces acting on the blocks, particularly focusing on which block will slip first. There is mention of calculating the maximum friction force between the blocks and considering the normal force.

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Some guidance has been provided regarding the calculations related to friction forces. Participants are exploring different aspects of the problem, including the forces acting on each block and the implications of the coefficients of friction.

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There is an indication of confusion regarding the initial approach to the problem, and participants are questioning the assumptions about the forces involved and their directions.

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May somebody please help me on this question, I have no idea even where to begin.

A 0.5kg wooden block is placed on top of a 1.0kg wooden block. The coefficient of static friction between the two blocks is 0.35. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the lower block and the level table is 0.20. What is the maximum horizontal force that can be applied to the lower block without the upper block slipping?
 
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Hi Keeo! Welcome to PF! :smile:

Hint: which will slip first, the upper block relative to the lower block, or the lower block relative to the table?

What is the maximum possible friction force between the upper block and the lower block? :smile:
 
Ok, I think I can help get you started on this one. For ease I'm calling the 1kg block m1 and the .5kg block m2. First think I would do is consider the equation fs= us*N where fs is the force of friction, us is the coefficient of friction and N is the normal force on the block. So, for m1 you would do this: .2*(9.8*1kg) which would then give you 1.96 N as your fs1. Hint: This is in the opposite direction of the applied force. See if that can help start you out and then go from there.
 
Thanks for all of your help it has actually lead me to an answer. Also thank you for welcoming me here.:biggrin:
 

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