The discussion revolves around the behavior of electric fields (E-fields) near conductors, particularly focusing on the directionality of these fields and the implications of charge distribution on the surface of conductors. Participants explore theoretical concepts related to electric fields, charge movement, and the interface between different media.
Participants express varying interpretations of the behavior of electric fields at the surface of conductors, with no clear consensus on the implications of tangential components or the effects of charge distribution. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views.
Some assumptions about the uniformity of charge distribution and the behavior of electric fields near conductors are not fully explored, leading to potential gaps in understanding the implications of surface curvature and external fields.
No. I'm not sure I have anything to add that hasn't previously been said.rudransh verma said:@DaveE To summarise I will say there is a isolated conductor which has zero E inside and outside. Now it’s charged. For a brief moment there will be a net internal electric field due to all these charges but that net field will soon disappear because these charges will soon redistribute itself in such a way that the net field on each charge due to all charges is zero. Field at every point become zero. Now the charges are at the surface making perpendicular field to the surface. Why? Its true that the outside tangential field will have an effect inside tangentially. But that doesn’t mean outside field is perpendicular. The field can well be at an angle and there would be an internal tangential field. Why are we saying because the internal field is zero! Of course It’s will be zero . All the charges are now on surface. Real reason is that the charges don’t move on the surface. That’s why the field lines are perpendicular to the surface.
I guess it was experimentally seen that charges don’t move on the surface. They become static. That is why we say fields are perpendicular.
@ergospherical You say inside field is zero. Tangential field both inside and thus outside is zero. Field is so perpendicular. But isn’t it possible that there is no field inside but the field due to surface charge is not perpendicular and have a tangential component along the surface.
So you are saying there will be a tangential field inside in that case. Ok then let there be. Are you saying field inside has been found zero when measured in case of charges on the surface.DaveE said:No
No. I didn't say that.rudransh verma said:So you are saying there will be a tangential field inside in that case. Ok then let there be. Are you saying field inside has been found zero when measured in case of charges on the surface.
Please explain!DaveE said:No. I didn't say that.
Change in e sub r.rudransh verma said:What does that mean? I didn’t catch you. Also Please complete your sentence.