Confusion with very basic algebra

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The discussion centers on finding points t in the interval (0, 2π) where sin(t) = sin(4t). The direct method using the identity sin(A) = sin(B) yields t = 2nπ/3, resulting in two solutions: 2π/3 and 4π/3. However, the indirect method reveals seven intersection points by analyzing the equation sin(t) - sin(4t) = 0, leading to the expression 2sin(3t/2)cos(5t/2). This discrepancy highlights the non-one-to-one nature of the sine function within a single period.

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I'm trying to find the points t in (0,2[itex]\pi[/itex]) such that sint=sin4t. So I use the fact that sinA=sinB <==> A=B+2n[itex]\pi[/itex] ([itex]n\in\mathbb{Z}[/itex]), which yields t=2n[itex]\pi[/itex]/3 ([itex]n\in\mathbb{Z}[/itex]). The only solutions of this in (0,2[itex]\pi[/itex]) are 2[itex]\pi[/itex]/3 and 4[itex]\pi[/itex]/3.

However, there are 7 intersection points, says the "indirect method" of finding the zeros in (0,2[itex]\pi[/itex]) of sint-sin4t = sint+sin(-4t) =2sin(3t/2)cos(5t/2).

The number 7 is also confirmed by my calculator. So why doesn't the direct method using only the properties of sine, give the correct answer?? :confused:
 
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sinA=sinB <=> A=B+2npi or A=(2n+1)pi-B. Remember that sin(x) is periodic with period 2pi, but not one-to-one on a given period (ie, there are points within a single period with the same sin).
 
Hey, you're right! Thanks StatusX.
 

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