Connected Subset of Real Numbers: Bounded Below, Unbounded Above

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The discussion revolves around the properties of connected subsets of real numbers, specifically focusing on a set that is bounded below but unbounded above. The original poster attempts to prove that such a set must take the form of either [a, ∞) or (a, ∞) for some real number a.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the characteristics of connected subsets of real numbers, noting that if two points are in the set, all points between them must also be included. There are attempts to establish the greatest lower bound and explore cases based on whether this bound is included in the set.

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Some participants have provided insights into the nature of connected subsets and the implications of being bounded below and unbounded above. There is an ongoing exploration of how to formally articulate the proof, with specific cases being examined. The discussion reflects a mix of understanding and uncertainty regarding the next steps in the proof process.

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The original poster is required to use a lemma about connected subsets and is seeking clarity on how to proceed with their proof, particularly regarding the inclusion of the greatest lower bound.

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If [tex]S[/tex] is a connected subset of [tex]\mathbb{R}[/tex] and [tex]S[/tex] is bounded below, but not above, then either [tex]S=[a, \infty)[/tex] or [tex]S=(a, \infty)[/tex] for some [tex]a \in \math{R}[/tex].
 
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What have you tried so far? Do you know what connected subsets of R look like?
 
Yes I am familiar with the types of connected subsets of [tex]\mathbb{R}[/tex]. I know that if [tex]a<b \in S[/tex] then [tex][a,b] \subseteq S[/tex]. I think I need to find some point in [tex][a,b][/tex] and show that [tex]a[/tex] is the least greatest lower bound of that interval whether or not [tex]a[/tex] is included in the interval. But I am not sure how to start.
 
I see that if a is the glb for S, then a is either in S or s is approaching a for s in S. And I see that there is no upper bound, so the right end of the interval is infinity. But I need help on writing that up formally. Please. Thank you!
 
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Yes I am familiar with the types of connected subsets of [tex]\mathbb{R}[/tex]. I know that if [tex]a<b \in S[/tex] then [tex][a,b] \subseteq S[/tex].

More specifically than just this, the only connected subsets of R are intervals
 
I know. I must not be stating my problem clearly. I need to prove that a connected subset of R that is bounded below but not above is equal to either [tex][a, \infty)[/tex] or [tex](a, \infty)[/tex] specifically. I am supposed to use a lemma that says if two points are in a connected subset of the real numbers, then all points in between these two points are also in the subset.
 
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I have gotten this far with the proof:


Since [tex]S[/tex] is bounded below, [tex]S[/tex] has a greatest lower bound, say [tex]a[/tex]. Since [tex]S[/tex] is not bounded above, I claim that [tex]S=(a, \infty)[/math] or [tex]S=[a, \infty)[/tex]. <br /> Case 1: Suppose [tex]a,x \in S[/tex] such that [tex]a \neq x[/tex]. Since [tex]a=g.l.b.(S)[/tex], [tex]a<x[/tex]. Now since [tex]S[/tex] is unbounded, there is some [tex]s \in S[/tex] such that [tex]s>x[/tex]. but since [tex]a,s,x \in S[/tex], by previously proved lemma, [tex][a,x] \in S[/tex] and [tex][x,s] \in S[/tex]. Henc e [tex]S=[a, \infty)[/tex].<br /> Case 2: Suppose [tex]a \notin S[/tex] and suppose [tex]x \in S[/tex], [tex]x>a[/tex].<br /> <br /> Now I am not sure how to move on to say that everything approaching a is in S but a is not in S.[/tex]
 

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