Consecutive integers, each relatively prime to some k

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The discussion revolves around the existence of consecutive integers that are relatively prime to a composite odd integer k, specifically exploring whether such integers can be found within a specified interval. The inquiry touches on concepts from number theory, particularly the properties of the greatest common divisor (gcd) and modular arithmetic.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the existence of an integer n such that gcd(n, k) = gcd(n + 1, k) = 1 for some composite odd integer k ≥ 9, seeking guidance on the solvability of this problem.
  • Another participant suggests starting with n = k + 1 and finding a k such that gcd(k, k + 2) = 1, although they later express uncertainty about the original question's intent.
  • A third participant points out the need for clarification regarding the interval in which n is being sought, suggesting that integers n and k can be found that satisfy the gcd condition, providing an example with n = 5 and k = 91.
  • A fourth participant provides a specific example involving the number 5005, stating that there exists an x in the interval (2085, 2110) such that gcd(x, 5005) = gcd(x + 1, 5005) = 1, emphasizing the need for a general proof rather than a computational method.
  • Another participant counters that it is not true in general, providing an example where no x satisfies gcd(x, 105) = gcd(x + 1, 105) = 1 within a specific interval, suggesting that constraints on the interval's bounds are necessary for a provable proposition.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the generality of the problem, with some suggesting that examples can be found under certain conditions, while others argue that it is not universally true without specific constraints on the interval.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of defining the interval clearly and the potential need for additional constraints to establish the existence of integers satisfying the gcd conditions.

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Hello,

Say I have some integer n in some interval such that,
gcd(n, k) = gcd(n + 1, k) = 1, for some composite odd integer k >= 9
I want to know if such n exists in that interval. To know that one exists suffices.

I have tried to think in terms of modular arithmetic where for all primes in k, the smaller of which is "embedded" inside the larger one: e.g. given two primes 5 and 13, the latter determines the outer "clock" while, beginning from zero, number 5 puts marks on that clock (which uses arithmetic modulo 13). For some obvious reasons, this got really complicated...

I'm not sure either whether writing out a linear combination for each gcd will lead somewhere.

I'm not expecting a full solution. I just need some guidance (or to know whether this is solvable at all).
Thanks.
 
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gcd(k,k+1)=1 for all k∈ℤ. Start with n=k+1 and try to find a k such that gcd(k,k+2)=1

Edit: Sorry, I think I misread your post. Are you looking for a specific example, or are you looking for a general test?
 
r731 said:
Say I have some integer n in some interval such that,
gcd(n, k) = gcd(n + 1, k) = 1, for some composite odd integer k >= 9
I want to know if such n exists in that interval. To know that one exists suffices.
The question is unclear. What is the interval you are asking about, and what role does it play in the question?

Certainly we can find integers n and k that satisfy your equation, for instance:

n=5, k=91=13x7 gives gcd(5,91)=gcd(6,91)=1
 
Here is an example:

Show that,
gcd(x, 5005) = gcd(x + 1, 5005) = 1 is true for some x,
where 2085 < x < 2110 and 5005 = 5*7*11*13

(Numbers 2085 and 2110 are not totally arbitrary.)

I need to show that it's true, in a general way. I'm not looking for a method "similar" to the sieve of Eratosthenes; not an algorithm, where the output of which is examined for each input. It's easy to prove the above example by using a program, but that method is not general.

Hopefully I made it more clear...
 
It is not true in general. For instance there is no x such that
gcd(x, 105) = gcd(x + 1, 105) = 1
and
13 < x < 16.

To get a provable proposition, you will need to introduce some constraints on what the bounds of the interval may be. You said that the bounds in your example were not totally arbitrary. Are you able to work out a rule for what sorts of bounds you wish to consider?
 

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